600 members in 24 hours?

[mwtidd]

Originally Posted by kgzak

well, then I can't do much. I can comment (maybe) on other's comments but nothing else. Is this normal or is it just screwed up for me?

you can upload youtube videos,
check out, add or edit your teams page.
teams pages also link to analysis of team's stats.

The way I look at it The Blue Alliance is awesome if you want to go back and see how a team has done,
and chief delphi is great for finding out information. I am not trying to replace what either of these sites offer,
I am trying to provide a different perspective: The team's and robot's. I am trying to fill the gap that is usually overcome by handing out team info sheets at competition. Why not have it all in one place, so that information is actually useful, and you can also quickly evaluate if a robot can actually do what they claim. Info sheets get glanced at, tossed, and then burned. Scouting Pit pages should be looked at prior to every match to quickly evaluate your competition and alliance's.


Feature's coming soon:
full picture service
robot pages
FRC FMS twitter feed updates

if you look at team's stat's there's a few helpful charts there for scouting. This info will be switched over to 2011 come march, and provide real time updates.
I am working into linking into the 2010 twitter feed for right now to provide even more information.

The tool is designed to allow you to quickly evaluate teams you are about to go into competition with. The 2011 data will also allow me to evaluate robots based on minibots, peg scoring, and hopefully autonomous if first supports the twitter feed i proposed.

The hope is to have a pre match tool, where you enter the 6 teams competing and it gives you a hint of what's to come.

I am also working on an alliance selection tool. It seems that alliance's often win and lose based on their 3rd pick, and that is where the most mistakes are made, and where tradition pit scouting actually interfere's with helping them find their best option. I will provide a tool that evaluates your team's needs the potential contribution of all remaining teams. This should help you make the most informed 3rd pick possible and not miss that gold mine team because you were too busy flipping through scouting sheets or excel pages.

[Carl C]

Originally Posted by lineskier

Do you have a gmail account?
I've thought about supporting google auth too.

... I've also considered twitter, but if you don't have fb i doubt you have twitter

I have both a gmail account and a twitter account, but I'm not sure that it would be worth the trouble of changing everything...

[Jimmy the Kidd]

I'm loading a white page. :/
EDIT: Never mind. Signing up.

[soxfan269]

you say there's a register team button, but I can't seem to locate such a thing

[mwtidd]

Originally Posted by soxfan269

you say there's a register team button, but I can't seem to locate such a thing

you have to be logged in to see it.

are you looking for add team or register team?

add team is found on the teams page.

register team should show up on your homepage after you login.

Originally Posted by Jimmy the Kidd

I'm loading a white page. :/
EDIT: Never mind. Signing up.

takes a little while to load the first time. but your browser will cache it so it should be faster in the future.

Originally Posted by Carl C

I have both a gmail account and a twitter account, but I'm not sure that it would be worth the trouble of changing everything...

I am looking into supporting twitter

Thanks again everyone for the support and feedback

[alicen]

So I've logged in, signed up, etc. I'm looking at the home page and don't see a register team button, and when I tried to look up my team (1379, been around since 2003) they weren't there, and I don't see any button for adding a team either.

[mwtidd]

Originally Posted by alicen

So I've logged in, signed up, etc. I'm looking at the home page and don't see a register team button, and when I tried to look up my team (1379, been around since 2003) they weren't there, and I don't see any button for adding a team either.

I think this should be fixed now.

Team registration is on the homepage once your logged in.

Team add is on the teams page right next to where you search.

Also after you login now, you don't have to login every time. You'll be logged in when you come to the page again on that computer.

thanks for your patience, you've been a huge help

[demosthenes2k8]

Hmmm...honestly, I like the idea but REALLY dislike the implementation. It's extremely slow and renders poorly on Chrome Dev 11...

[mwtidd]

Originally Posted by demosthenes2k8

Hmmm...honestly, I like the idea but REALLY dislike the implementation. It's extremely slow and renders poorly on Chrome Dev 11...

Thanks for the feed back. I was concerned with a lot of this too. The site contains quite a bit of delighters and maybe its time I started to scrap some of them. Honestly that map on the homepage is quite a pig, and will probably be replaced with a pic soon. The second thing that kills the system is the render on the team and event pages. I have an alternative in mind, and maybe it's time I implemented it.

I was hoping some of the exclusive features to the system would outweigh the speed, but it doesn't seem as though user's are using them yet as its all old data. Once the FRC FMS system launches, there will be much more and better data available for me, and it will be reflected in the functionality in the system.

I'm also considering deploying it as a desktop application which would have some distinct pros over a web app.

Also note the first load is brutally slow, its the nature of having a big app. However after the first load, it should cache and be sufficiently faster.
I'll work on banging out a core version to the site, and hopefully its more to your liking

Honestly its the worst feedback to hear, but the best feedback to get.

So thank you!

[buildmaster5000]

I try to keep the facebook apps I use to a minimum. As such, I am hesitant to sign up (nothing personal ). If you implement google accounts, that would be a great addition to the site. Could you possible use CD accounts as well??

On IE 8 it loaded just fine. Nice and quick. The little interaction I have thus far has been great. A quick, clean interface that displays what you want, where you would expect it.

I hope this takes off soon...

BRAVO!!!!!

[mwtidd]

Originally Posted by buildmaster5000

I try to keep the facebook apps I use to a minimum. As such, I am hesitant to sign up (nothing personal ). If you implement google accounts, that would be a great addition to the site. Could you possible use CD accounts as well??

On IE 8 it loaded just fine. Nice and quick. The little interaction I have thus far has been great. A quick, clean interface that displays what you want, where you would expect it.

I hope this takes off soon...

BRAVO!!!!!

:-D thanks!

yeah I wanted to place a disclaimer that I only use facebook for authentication. Everything else is proprietary.

Trust me, building a commenting system from the ground up was a pain, but I know people like to keep the fb and first lives separate.

I'm glad you are having a positive experience with the UI too.
Chrome can be a nasty little browser which is why many pages
don't officially support it.
I'm glad to hear it works on IE (i develop on a mac so I wouldnt know)

It seems to work nicely in firefox and safari too.

I am still going to develop the core app for chrome and android.
(its a little sad that they get grouped together)

regarding google accounts I have looked into supporting it, and I will do a little more research, and I agree openid would be a nice alternative to facebook. The one nice thing about fb though is that it's people names, so
it acts as a first line of defense, anything to make moderation easier seeing as I'm the only one developing this

[mwtidd]

For all of you who want a faster site:

http://scoutingpit.com/core.html

I hope you like it!

[XaulZan11]

Its been attempted before, but any website like this that requirs user-generated information will simply not be worthwhile. Not enough teams will enter thier picture and information.

One thing that should be address is "if my team scouted every match, what does this site add/ why should I look at this site if I watched every match" The teams that don't scout and could use this site aren't the ones on CD and thus won't know about this site. The teams that are on CD and would know about this site have some sort of scouting system that is probably better than just looking at match scores and then creating some statistics.

I'm not trying to be a wet blanket, but I think there are just too many FIRST-related sites that spring up because someone wants to make a website opposed to fulfilling an actual need. I think there is great promise with this site but at least for me (maybe I'm not your target market), I don't really have any reason to sign up and use your site. Find that need and I think you will have great sucess.

[buildmaster5000]

The new site seemed slower to me this morning, but it might just be me. As far as "creating a need," I had the idea of doing what TBA does: pulling robot pics off TIMS. If there was a way to do the same thing for video, that would be good too.

Originally Posted by XaulZan11

One thing that should be address is "if my team scouted every match, what does this site add/ why should I look at this site if I watched every match" The teams that don't scout and could use this site aren't the ones on CD and thus won't know about this site. The teams that are on CD and would know about this site have some sort of scouting system that is probably better than just looking at match scores and then creating some statistics.

Think of this as an information site, not a scouting site. If your first event is a week 4 event, this is a tool to get the first 3 weeks of data from.

[XaulZan11]

Originally Posted by buildmaster5000

Think of this as an information site, not a scouting site.

Oh, then may I suggest a different name?