Week 1 Action

[rsisk]

At the Alamo during practice, there were tubes all over the field.

[MrForbes]

And we still haven't seen a qualifying match....

[liam.larkin]

Where oh where are those minibots people were raving about being so awesome? "Our minibot is so fast you have to use relavistic motion equations to calculate its velocity"

I only came across a few that were reliable. Are teams holding out?

OR

The predictable overestimating/underestimating depending on how you look at it variable has sprung up again.
The act of deploying a thing that is realitively small onto a poll that is even smaller (diameter) from like 40 feet away not as easy as we thought.

Teams with reliable deployments this week. Reliable equal to say 80% or better regardless of climb time are going to find themselves in some fun spots come Sat afternoon.

[waialua359]

Originally Posted by liam.larkin

The predictable overestimating/underestimating depending on how you look at it variable has sprung up again.
The act of deploying a thing that is realitively small onto a poll that is even smaller (diameter) from like 40 feet away not as easy as we thought.

Teams with reliable deployments this week. Reliable equal to say 80% or better regardless of climb time are going to find themselves in some fun spots come Sat afternoon.

The experienced veteran teams who have posted clips all have self-aligning mechanisms to help them align their minibots to the pole. Aiming from 40 ft away would indeed be tough.

What I haven't seen or heard about yet, are the "other" ways of aligning the robots using software.

[Cyberphil]

One amazing thing I just saw:

148 scored two, yes, thats right, TWO ubertubes in auto.

I am scared.

[billbo911]

Originally Posted by Cyberphil

One amazing thing I just saw:

148 scored two, yes, thats right, TWO ubertubes in auto.

I am scared.

I definitely dropped my jaw when I saw that.
How do you plan for such an event?

[Jeffy]

Originally Posted by Cyberphil

One amazing thing I just saw:

148 scored two, yes, thats right, TWO ubertubes in auto.

I am scared.

For someone who saw that better than I did on the webcast:
It appeared that the 148 bot was still in contact with the tube when auton ended. Therefore, it would not have counted. Being that i did not see the final score, did it count? If so, why?

[waialua359]

Originally Posted by Jeffy

For someone who saw that better than I did on the webcast:
It appeared that the 148 bot was still in contact with the tube when auton ended. Therefore, it would not have counted. Being that i did not see the final score, did it count? If so, why?

Technically, it can still count.

[Jeffy]

Originally Posted by waialua359

Technically, it can still count.

How?
Definition of hanging: HANGING – a GAME PIECE is HANGING when it is fully supported by a PEG through its center hole and released by the POSSESSING ROBOT. If a GAME PIECE on the floor is preventing a GAME PIECE that has been hung on a bottom PEG from becoming fully supported (that is, if the floor GAME PIECE was not there, the hung GAME PIECE would be scored) then that GAME PIECE will still be counted as scored.

Fully supported suggests that none of the weight my rest on the robot, only on the peg. So, even though the robot could have pulled away and it would have stayed the same (which 148 did), I am inclined to think that the tube is still partially supported by the robot.
If you were to draw a force vector diagram I know the robot would be exerting a force on the game piece.

[EricH]

But if that force vector from the robot is directed straight down, and there is no force vector upwards, then the game piece is fully supported by the peg. No problems there, but the robot might not have fully released the game piece.

Also, the "game piece prevention" exception to the "fully supported" may also be being applied to the robot grippers.

[Robby Unruh]

Penalty's will be a definite score changer. I saw some penalties going as high as 7 or 8 per match.

[familyguyfreak]

Originally Posted by Jeffy

For someone who saw that better than I did on the webcast:
It appeared that the 148 bot was still in contact with the tube when auton ended. Therefore, it would not have counted. Being that i did not see the final score, did it count? If so, why?

I watched the Alamo webcast all day. 148 did it twice. The first time they did it, it was completely successful. (as in they backed away and it hung freely) The second time they were still in contact with the tube but they were not applying any kind of force to the tube so in a sense, it was hanging on the peg and they were just touching it. I do believe they counted it as a hang but some that was there in person should clarify this.

[Creator Mat]

Originally Posted by familyguyfreak

I watched the Alamo webcast all day. 148 did it twice. The first time they did it, it was completely successful. (as in they backed away and it hung freely) The second time they were still in contact with the tube but they were not applying any kind of force to the tube so in a sense, it was hanging on the peg and they were just touching it. I do believe they counted it as a hang but some that was there in person should clarify this.

Does anyone have video of this accomplishment?

[Norman J]

Originally Posted by Cyberphil

One amazing thing I just saw:

148 scored two, yes, thats right, TWO ubertubes in auto.

I am scared.

I'm not surprised they did it. Going in, I knew 148 definitely has the capability to do so. We were planning to do so since the start of the season, and it got ready in time for Kettering.

[PayneTrain]

The only logical explanation for a double uber in autonomous from 148 is sorcery. My weak, human brain can't process how one could do that.