Is a paintball headsheild....

[Dr Fritz]

Okay, so I was told to check to make sure that a paint-ball head shield are allowed to be used as safety glasses. keep in mind that paint-ball masks will stop a quarter sized slug that is travelling a couple hundred feet per second. I was told to double check if I can wear it in the pit?

[Lil' Lavery]

I would not let my students wear a paintball mask in the pits. I do not know their safety rating, but it's not the strength of the plastic that concerns me. It's the reduction to peripheral vision and the high probability that it could fog up that does.

[paragon]

I would probably go with the safety glasses. That way no one would talk to you about appropriate safety wear.

[EricH]

Are paintball headshields ANSI-approved, as required by the Administrative Manual Section 4.3.1? If they are, and you can show that, you should be OK.

If not, however, then you will need to wear ANSI-approved safety glasses along with the headshield if you're going to wear the headshield at all.

Also see this, from the FRC Team Safety Manual:

Eye and Face Protection
There are several forms of eye/face protection available to provide protection from these hazards, including safety glasses with side shields, goggles, and face shields. Inspect equipment for damage each time it is worn. If you wear prescription glasses, and they are not approved safety glasses, you must wear approved safety goggles over them to achieve
adequate protection.
Eye and face protection is required when there is a risk of exposure to the following:
 Flying particles
 Chemical exposure (such as splashes, splatters, and sprays)
Wear non-shaded, ANSI-approved eye protection in the following areas:
 When doing any work on the robot including, grinding, drilling, soldering, cutting, welding, etc.
 at FIRST events:
 Anywhere in the pit area, including walk ways and pit stations
 On the Playing Field
 On the Practice Field
 Any area posted with signs requiring the use of eye protection

[Dr Fritz]

http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CE0Q8wIwAA#
i have this one and it has a pretty good all around vision and i have anti fog spray i paint ball so the site is all good
pointing out that a paintball at 300 FPS is moving at roughly 204 MPH
The lens is shot from a distance of 1.5 meters or below at 300 FPS. The second test finds if the lens cracks or breaks under heavy stresses. The lens is shot at 400 FPS at a distance of 1.5 meters and below. The lens is shot with 4 paintballs at 3 second intervals in 4 places on the lens.
just some facts about paint ball goggles shop glasses break when hit with a paint ball round with the same test done above so wouldn't it be safe enough for the pit ?

[EricH]

It's not a question of whether it can stop a paintball. It's not a question of whether you can see through it well enough. It's not a question of whether it can take a hit with a paintball better than safety glasses can.

It's a question of whether or not it meets FIRST requirements. FIRST requirements happen to include ANSI approval. You find something that tells me (and your safety judges) that it's ANSI-approved, you can wear it. If you can't find that, you have to wear safety glasses along with it. That's what the FIRST manuals (plural in this case--Administrative and Safety) say.

[Dr Fritz]

http://www.airsoftohio.com/forums/sh...d.php?p=117960

the second post says so. should i have a paper or something saying my googles are ansi approved?
astm also has higher standards so what if it was astm approved?

[Dr Fritz]

Originally Posted by EricH

It's not a question of whether it can stop a paintball. It's not a question of whether you can see through it well enough. It's not a question of whether it can take a hit with a paintball better than safety glasses can.

It's a question of whether or not it meets FIRST requirements. FIRST requirements happen to include ANSI approval. You find something that tells me (and your safety judges) that it's ANSI-approved, you can wear it. If you can't find that, you have to wear safety glasses along with it. That's what the FIRST manuals (plural in this case--Administrative and Safety) say.

ok ill check it out

[EricH]

Honestly, I would hope that an ASTM rating would be enough. If FIRST won't take ASTM because it isn't ANSI...

You would want to have papers or something--often it'll be marked on the lens. A package would be ideal, but often not available. A forum post probably wouldn't be enough--not enough authority/weight behind it; unless, of course, it came from a known manufacturer. A website spec sheet would probably work.

As an example, I have a pair of safety glasses marked with a bunch of numbers in various non-see-through places. Some of those may be model numbers; others could be standard numbers that it's tested to; I'm not exactly certain which is which.

[MrForbes]

The Z87 thing is what you're looking for (ANSI standard number)....the D1.5 is something for old men like me, mine are bifocal

[Dr Fritz]

Originally Posted by squirrel

The Z87 thing is what you're looking for (ANSI standard number)....the D1.5 is something for old men like me, mine are bifocal

Thanks so now i know what to look for....

[Camren]

i dont see why they wouldnt on they protect ur eyes and face from shrapnels and an 69 caliber slug two they show great spirit if your team was known for wearing them

[Dr Fritz]

yeah that was kind of my idea as well i am going to paint a shark mouth decal on it

[EricH]

FIRST doesn't allow non-side-shielded glasses, even if those glasses are safety-rated prescription glasses.

If they are not safety rated (see discussion above), you can expect to be asked to wear safety glasses under them. And with paintball masks not looking like standard safety glasses, you can expect the safety judges to ask. If you can point them to the rating, you'll be just fine. If you can't, you will be wearing an extra set of eyewear.

[Dr Fritz]

Originally Posted by EricH

FIRST doesn't allow non-side-shielded glasses, even if those glasses are safety-rated prescription glasses.

If they are not safety rated (see discussion above), you can expect to be asked to wear safety glasses under them. And with paintball masks not looking like standard safety glasses, you can expect the safety judges to ask. If you can point them to the rating, you'll be just fine. If you can't, you will be wearing an extra set of eyewear.

fair enough