Is a paintball headsheild....

[EricH]

Honestly, I would hope that an ASTM rating would be enough. If FIRST won't take ASTM because it isn't ANSI...

You would want to have papers or something--often it'll be marked on the lens. A package would be ideal, but often not available. A forum post probably wouldn't be enough--not enough authority/weight behind it; unless, of course, it came from a known manufacturer. A website spec sheet would probably work.

As an example, I have a pair of safety glasses marked with a bunch of numbers in various non-see-through places. Some of those may be model numbers; others could be standard numbers that it's tested to; I'm not exactly certain which is which.

[MrForbes]

The Z87 thing is what you're looking for (ANSI standard number)....the D1.5 is something for old men like me, mine are bifocal

[Dr Fritz]

Originally Posted by squirrel

The Z87 thing is what you're looking for (ANSI standard number)....the D1.5 is something for old men like me, mine are bifocal

Thanks so now i know what to look for....

[Camren]

i dont see why they wouldnt on they protect ur eyes and face from shrapnels and an 69 caliber slug two they show great spirit if your team was known for wearing them

[Dr Fritz]

yeah that was kind of my idea as well i am going to paint a shark mouth decal on it

[EricH]

FIRST doesn't allow non-side-shielded glasses, even if those glasses are safety-rated prescription glasses.

If they are not safety rated (see discussion above), you can expect to be asked to wear safety glasses under them. And with paintball masks not looking like standard safety glasses, you can expect the safety judges to ask. If you can point them to the rating, you'll be just fine. If you can't, you will be wearing an extra set of eyewear.

[Dr Fritz]

Originally Posted by EricH

FIRST doesn't allow non-side-shielded glasses, even if those glasses are safety-rated prescription glasses.

If they are not safety rated (see discussion above), you can expect to be asked to wear safety glasses under them. And with paintball masks not looking like standard safety glasses, you can expect the safety judges to ask. If you can point them to the rating, you'll be just fine. If you can't, you will be wearing an extra set of eyewear.

fair enough

[Matt Krass]

I have to ask this.

Why?

I mean seriously, even if you carry the documentation around, it's gonna be a pain every time someone asks (and they will) and it seems like a lot of silly trouble to go through, just get a pair of safety glasses.

Yours may not fog up often, but they still might, and still may cause vision obstruction, plus its clunky and its going to make you sweat like a waterfall I'd bet.

I'm all for creativity, and having fun, but one thing I don't like playing games with is safety. Doesn't matter if they can stop a speeding tank, if they're obstructing your vision and becoming uncomfortable they're a safety risk in themselves and you shouldn't wear them.

These will work nicely: http://www.amazon.com/DPG54-1C-Perfo...9293568&sr=8-1 they're only $3 + shipping and they're fully rated to the ANSI approval spec.

I'm sorry if I seem rude, I've just had a long season of butting heads with people over just wearing safety glasses, and I don't think this an area that deserves any flexibility, not even the slightest!

Compete safe,
Matt

[Dr Fritz]

Originally Posted by Matt Krass

I have to ask this.

Why?

I mean seriously, even if you carry the documentation around, it's gonna be a pain every time someone asks (and they will) and it seems like a lot of silly trouble to go through, just get a pair of safety glasses.

Yours may not fog up often, but they still might, and still may cause vision obstruction, plus its clunky and its going to make you sweat like a waterfall I'd bet.

I'm all for creativity, and having fun, but one thing I don't like playing games with is safety. Doesn't matter if they can stop a speeding tank, if they're obstructing your vision and becoming uncomfortable they're a safety risk in themselves and you shouldn't wear them.

These will work nicely: http://www.amazon.com/DPG54-1C-Perfo...9293568&sr=8-1 they're only $3 + shipping and they're fully rated to the ANSI approval spec.

I'm sorry if I seem rude, I've just had a long season of butting heads with people over just wearing safety glasses, and I don't think this an area that deserves any flexibility, not even the slightest!

Compete safe,
Matt

I see where your going and I am doing it for spirit I always use eye protection when needed and I am an observant person i can watch where i am going and really if you have gone Paint-balling before the masks don't take much of the eyesight away barely any or none at all

[Matt Krass]

Originally Posted by Dr Fritz

I see where your going and I am doing it for spirit I always use eye protection when needed and I am an observant person i can watch where i am going and really if you have gone Paint-balling before the masks don't take much of the eyesight away barely any or none at all

I have gone paintballing, quite a bit actually, and that's just not true, at least not of any of the protective gear that actually... you know, protects.

Safety is more important than spirit, your team (and everyone else at the event) would rather you cheer them on with bland safety glasses from the stands instead of by phone from the emergency room.

That gear is not meant for the kind of close quarters environment you're dealing with here, just because it can take the same amount of blunt force doesn't make it necessarily safe in this environment. Nobody here wants to see the safety rules get any more complicated so please exercise common sense and don't make them spell it out for you.

[MrForbes]

Listen to Al. He knows whereof he speaks.

[Tytus Gerrish]

full seal ANSI rated eye protection is required for paintball and airsoft. my Spartan armor has an ANSI rated motorcycle visor and its allowed at events. there is no logical reason anyone would say you are not adequately protected wearing a paintball mask.

my helmet has a 12v fan in it and i use anti-fog spray to keep it clear. but if your not huffing and puffing running around the arena you will be fine as far as fog is concerned.

[Al Skierkiewicz]

Hey Doc,
I tried to do a search for JT USA and found lot's of people selling their products but no one had a link to JT USA. There was no place to find ratings or testing. Most companies that meet ANSI or UL for that matter, want everyone to know. You need to ask this question of the Q&A for a definitive answer, but I'll go out on a limb here. If asked if this headgear could be used in the pit, I would say without hesitation the answer would be NO. I wouldn't want one of my students working close in on a robot with head gear like this. One of the things that the safety rules stress is not only using devices that are safe for you, but safe for all around you. There are a variety of times when you want maximum peripheral vision and this design limits that vision. Not just to your sides but down where you are walking over objects and above to prevent standing up into someone or something. If the pit is a dangerous place for this mask, think about in the queue where it is usually dark, walking over cables, field borders, scoring devices, and other participants.
Sorry.

[Tytus Gerrish]

legitimate paintball and airsoft equipment has an ANSI rating and documentation. don't buy inferior equipment.

[ttldomination]

I mean...why would you WANT to wear these in the pits? At times it can be hard to breathe through those. It can get hot in the pits, and instead of cooling down, these helmets will only heat you up.

If you're going for the BA team look, build a good robot, don't wear a mask.

- Sunny