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that's coming in real handy. we're trying to reconstruct our team's history, and we're still a little confused. Thank you!
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10-11-2002, 21:31
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Limitations of Keith's FIRST database lookup trick
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BTW, there are some limitations, so be very careful if you're using it for "archival research". Some of the data returned is only "current", because there's only one entry slot for it in the database. For example: The Team Name will ALWAYS show with the current set of sponsors, regardless of year requested. They didn't save the old sponsors. However, it does appear to be a good way to research a team's regional contest entries for a particular year, or find out about old teams that "fell off of the scope" by not entering this year. - Keith Last edited by kmcclary : 10-11-2002 at 21:35.
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10-11-2002, 22:00
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Re: Limitations of Keith's FIRST database lookup trick
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'97 listed as team 92 '98 164 TRW / ADTECH & Hawthorne HS & North HS & Leuzinger HS & Mira Costa HS & Redondo HS , USA and then current team # 294. I had to look up where Luezinger was - Lawndale. Thanks again!
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11-11-2002, 14:24
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Sheesh, give away the answers why don't you, Noelle.
It's a scavenger hunt for SPAM homework.
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11-11-2002, 16:43
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I thought she was quite smart to ask for assistance. A very effective use of the resources she knew she had at hand to make her work go quickly. By asking, she also learned a method to find out any team's data from now on. Merely finding the data once wouldn't have taught her that. (The "teach a person to fish" lesson.)  Moral: Never be afraid to admit your ignorance, and ask someone something. You may just learn something new... Now if the scavenger hunt specified "no asking someone (i.e. CDF)" in the rules, that's a different story. HOWEVER, if it did not forbid it, tough. Don't try to make it a moral crime just because someone slipped up in rule making (and you didn't think of the strategy first)  ... Honestly, "best at hand resource use" and "using the rules to your best advantage" is in part the essence of getting anything done rapidly in industry, and the world in general. My advice: If she isn't already on it, add her to your Strategy Team immediately. She's really thinking! Now that the answers are posted... Let's see how many of your team think to LOOK here for them! - Keith Last edited by kmcclary : 11-11-2002 at 16:45.
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11-11-2002, 21:09
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I don't want just any old SPAMmer stumbling across the answer. Then again, it will be hilarious at the next meeting when people try to say they couldn't find the answer...and it was right here all along! I think we should do these little research projects more often. This was fun, sneaking around and learning about other teams.
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11-11-2002, 21:19
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hey your right hix... covering tracks is a very good plan... and thankyou Keith for the compliment... i happen to think it was a good idea myself... comes from having to learn how to do things fast and effiecently.
now though... hix is right... i dont want lots of peopele figuring it out.... how can i delete this thread so not everyone finds it?
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11-11-2002, 21:29
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Normally all you have to do is just edit your first post and there is a thing that says delete, but i think it's already past the time given for a person to delete their thread...It can still be deleted, you'll just have to ask a moderator to do it.
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11-11-2002, 21:55
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Then you can REALLY rib them!<looks at membership> Wow! 28 SPAM team members here! OOC, do you have a team requirement that everyone on your team must be on the CDF? - Keith
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11-11-2002, 22:13
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...no. Our team would crumble if people did that. It's probably just because we have like 60 new members this year. We do well, and people are scrambling to join. Leeches. It's all good though, because none of them smell too bad.  *rereads previous statement and cracks up* hehehehehe... I think it's time for bed.
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11-11-2002, 22:19
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Look up your Team's CDF participants!
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 ...), according to the CDF members database, only 28 CDF participants have actually declared themselves as members of Team 180 SPAM. You may have more, but they're not registered as such here.Here's another trick for you: You can check out your team's CDF list here: - http://chiefdelphi.com/forums/member...t&field5 =180 Look it over, bookmark it for the future, then go beat on everyone that hasn't signed up yet (or forgot to declare their team affiliation)... You can even use THAT data for another trivia challenge in some way! - Keith
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12-11-2002, 12:22
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Noelle,
Good job on tracking down the information. You never have to do all of the work yourself. You just have to know where to go for the answer. Chief Delphi is the best resource for answers around. Keith, We currently have 100 +/- students on the SPAM roster. I'm still trying to figure out what to do with all of them come build season. With veterans like Izzie and Hix, I'm sure I'll figure something.
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12-11-2002, 14:04
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Large Team issues
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 No wonder you're called "SPAM"!!! How many are "the hard core" members that participate a lot (vs "paper" or "meeting only" members)?What to do with them? Just have them all sign up here... Oh, BTW, tell them to put on their CDF registrations that "kmcclary" referred them here ... Seriously though, are you looking for real suggestions for something to do with them? Although a rookie team, Pioneer is THE largest comprehensive HS in MI, with about 2800 students, 800 in the Freshman Class alone. Our initial signup included tons of students, but we'll soon see how many really become the "hard core". Therefore, we've expected from Day One that within a few years we'd be wrestling with the "what to do with extra students" problem, so we've already started thinking about it. We may want to swap ideas on the subject. OOC, with a team of your size, do you differentiate between your "home team" and "traveling team" for "away games" (Regionals that require travel and hotel)? We're lucky. One regional (GLR) is in our back yard (<10 miles away), so EVERYONE goes, but we're still working out how to handle the cost of "away games" with a large team without going broke... If someone hasn't already, maybe we should start a separate "what to do with large teams" thread, to see what other big teams do, both WRT traveling, and other activities to keep everyone busy. I like your "scavenger hunt" idea, but I'd also like to focus their experiences toward education and robot building experiments or labs. I'm meeting FTF with another team's teacher soon to discuss that very topic. - Keith
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