Will we see a wall robot?

[Taylor]

It's doubtful we'll see a wallbot.

Originally Posted by Game Manual <R02>

ROBOT parts shall not be made from hazardous materials, be unsafe, or cause an unsafe condition. Items specifically prohibited from use on the ROBOT include (but are not limited to):
A. Shields, curtains, or any other devices or materials designed or used to obstruct or limit the vision of any DRIVERS and/or COACHES and/or interfere with their ability to safely control their ROBOT

[AmoryG]

Originally Posted by Taylor

It's doubtful we'll see a wallbot.

If you call 3553's robot a wall, then a wall wouldn't necessarily violate this rule. If you watch the youtube video above then you can see that their "wall" is not high enough to obstruct anyone's vision.

[Taylor]

Originally Posted by AmoryG

If you call 3553's robot a wall ...

I'd be inclined to call it more of a speedbump.

Seriously, it is a very cool design; I hope they are well utilized in eliminations.

[IFB662]

There is a wall bot so to say out here in kansas city. they are a rookie team sadly we have only played about 15 practice matches here so i never saw them play a match.

[Alpha Beta]

Originally Posted by IFB662

There is a wall bot so to say out here in kansas city. they are a rookie team sadly we have only played about 15 practice matches here so i never saw them play a match.

UpNext, Team 3528. They can be seen on YouTube here.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Alpha Beta

UpNext, Team 3528. They can be seen on YouTube here.

Hehe, this design with mecanums has it's pros and cons. Too many cons for my taste though.

[Aren Siekmeier]

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi

Hehe, this design with mecanums has it's pros and cons. Too many cons for my taste though.

It actually looks to be a holonomic drive base with 8" omni wheels (AM trick wheels?) at 90 degrees (no big difference). It also looks the wheels on the extensions are omnis as well, especially because of their ability to translate in any direction with them deployed (plus the wheels themselves being able to lift off the ground). There are a lot of intricacies that seem to make it work well, as well some driving skill . Although it is going against another mecanum bot which probably can't push as well, so it'd be interesting to see how this fared against traction wheels.

[MagiChau]

Lets see how they do at Greater Kansas then today and tomorrow. I am pinning hope on Dragonfly to show how critical defense is in Week 2 as well as all weeks.

[pwnageNick]

3528's going to get pushed out of the way. The increased length of their drive train makes the leverage a pushing team would have on them better. With the omni-ish drive they have going on, they're going to to get spun out of the way I think. They need more traction on the ground for this to work. 3553's robot seems to have more traction on their drive train. 8 friction wheels should do the job as long as those outside wheels stay against the ground and don't come up. They probably have too much friction to turn at that point actually, although if they wait to fold out their sides until they're in position, then they really wouldn't have to turn. And actually once they were in that position they would even be lined up with the poles for the minibot, they could just have their minibot attached to their fold out sides.

All in all I think 3553's design could be a huge 3rd alliance partner to any alliance that has 2 good scoring robots. Imagine them on the alliance at alamo with 16 and 148, although 3553 cant score an ubertube, it wouldn't matter because 148 would score it for them. Then 16 and 148 would score like crazy like they did while 3553 held the other alliance to 0 points. I think Einstein's going to be exciting this year

However, this is just my 2 cents.

[Jonzki]

Originally Posted by pwnageNick

Imagine them on the alliance at alamo with 16 and 148, although 3553 cant score an ubertube, it wouldn't matter because 148 would score it for them. Then 16 and 148 would score like crazy like they did while 3553 held the other alliance to 0 points. I think Einstein's going to be exciting this year

And what was the scenario at the alamo?

[vigkvagkv2]

I highly doubt the robot inspectors would allow for a net since it's way too much of a tangle risk with other robots. I can easily see a robot manipulator getting into a hole or even a fold in the net, try to turn, and getting horribly stuck together.

[Shiplee]

I thought I would chime in here considering our robot is being talked about lol

My name is Jordan and I'm one of the Team Captains from Team 3528. As a rookie team this year we wanted something that would be easier to design and control. I think we chose the right path.

The KC Regionals just finished up and we did pretty well I think, ontop of being chosen onto a top 8 alliance, we also walked away with the Rookie All Star. Just to let you know a little about our robot: 4 omni wheels and two plaction wheels on each of our wings, we were only able to be pushed around by one team and even then we held them pretty tight. When going up against teams that could put up two full logos when we aren't on the field, we held them to about one. I feel we were very very successful in our rookie year! plus, WE'RE GOING TO ST. LOUIS!

Woot woot

[thefro526]

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi

Hehe, this design with mecanums has it's pros and cons. Too many cons for my taste though.

I'm with you Stogz.

After watching that video, I'm fairly certain that any team with either a 6-Motor, or 2-speed Traction Drive should be able to push 3528 - especially if there is some momentum behind the hit.

[mwtidd]

Originally Posted by thefro526

I'm with you Stogz.

After watching that video, I'm fairly certain that any team with either a 6-Motor, or 2-speed Traction Drive should be able to push 3528 - especially if there is some momentum behind the hit.

Yeah, I'm surprised that no teams are just laying down on the endzone line. I feel that laying down in front of the pegs with the most ubertubes would be more disrupting than trying to block both towers. Also you wouldn't have to worry about incurring pentalties as if they pushed you into the endzone, no penalty would occur. and if they pushed you in there, I don't see any rule that you have to make an effort to leave. So if you laid down on the ground and got pushed into the endzone, you very well could be in a better position that previously allowed.

[Vikesrock]

Originally Posted by lineskier

Yeah, I'm surprised that no teams are just laying down on the endzone line. I feel that laying down in front of the pegs with the most ubertubes would be more disrupting than trying to block both towers. Also you wouldn't have to worry about incurring pentalties as if they pushed you into the endzone, no penalty would occur. and if they pushed you in there, I don't see any rule that you have to make an effort to leave. So if you laid down on the ground and got pushed into the endzone, you very well could be in a better position that previously allowed.

Please reread the latest version of the Game section of the manual. This is an inaccurate description of the current state of the rules regarding the opponent's zone and/or lane.