Banebots RS-775 Case Short

[Ether]

Originally Posted by squirrel

I doubt Mabuchi is the manufacturer.

What is the basis for your doubt? Mabuchi's reputation?

[MrForbes]

Originally Posted by Ether

What is the basis for your doubt? Mabuchi's reputation?

If the motors said "Mabuchi" on them, then I would think they might be Mabuchi motors. Aside from that, the term "Mabuchi motor" has become slightly generic, referring to any motor that is a copy of the original Mabuchi style of motor.

I could be wrong...but I doubt it.

[Ether]

Originally Posted by squirrel

If the motors said "Mabuchi" on them, then I would think they might be Mabuchi motors. Aside from that, the term "Mabuchi motor" has become slightly generic, referring to any motor that is a copy of the original Mabuchi style of motor.

I could be wrong...but I doubt it.

I was assuming that Mabuchi doesn't necessarily stamp their name on motors they manufacture for re-branders. I could be wrong.

Mabuchi is the world's number one manufacturer of small motors. So if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck... unless you factor in that they probably wouldn't retain their dominant market leadership for very long cranking out junk. That's why I asked if your doubts were based on Mabuchi's reputation.

[artdutra04]

Originally Posted by Ether

I was assuming that Mabuchi doesn't necessarily stamp their name on motors they manufacture for re-branders. I could be wrong.

Mabuchi is the world's number one manufacturer of small motors. So if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck... unless you factor in that they probably wouldn't retain their dominant market leadership for very long cranking out junk. That's why I asked if your doubts were based on Mabuchi's reputation.

While the part numbers and operating specs may match available Mabuchi motors, I wouldn't be surprised if the BaneBots motors were actually made by a Chinese clone manufacturer. Protecting intellectual property there is very difficult to enforce, and as a result their market is saturated with all kinds of inferior clone and knockoff products.

For example, none of the RS775 motors listed here listed Mabuchi as their manufacturer, but rather a variety of Chinese companies.

[MrForbes]

Art explained my thinking, thanks Art

[MCahoon]

I really like the range of motor options FIRST made available this year. I think a possibility might be that FIRST provides the specifications the motors must meet - but leaves the choice of supplier up to the team. I think it reflects a more "real world" approach. Virtually any company in business for the long run develops a preferred provider list because they know they will get the quality/quantity/delivery time/cost from those vendors. If FIRST had specified any RS-775-18 with free speed XX, stall torque XX, peak power XX, etc. I could have ordered directly from Mabuchi or a number of other vendors. I could provide specification sheet from the vendor to verify the motors comply to the specification.

[Ether]

Originally Posted by artdutra04

While the part numbers and operating specs may match available Mabuchi motors, I wouldn't be surprised if the BaneBots motors were actually made by a Chinese clone manufacturer.

Mabuchi has 4 factories in China.

Protecting intellectual property there is very difficult to enforce, and as a result their market is saturated with all kinds of inferior clone and knockoff products.

So the argument against the likelihood of the Banebots being Mabuchi comes down to price and "Mabuchi has a reputation to protect".