Will we see a perfect score?

[mwtidd]

Originally Posted by jvriezen

Actually, a perfect score is technically 194... You just have to be fortunate enough to have opponents that herd you their ubertubes across the centerline during autonomous so that each of your alliance's bots can score two ubertubes.

Now that will never happen..

FIRST Team 2530 "Inconceivable"

haha! awesome point... a 6 tube autonomous with one tube on each peg. This would be truly awesome.

for the sake of discussion though we'll keep it at a 6 tube autonomous so you are not dependent on the other alliance

[Racer26]

I expect an alliance at IRI elims might achieve this. Some alliance including three of: 1114,2056,217,148,254,968,233,111 and probably more I'm forgetting.

[Sunshine]

Originally Posted by jvriezen

Actually, a perfect score is technically 194... You just have to be fortunate enough to have opponents that herd you their ubertubes across the centerline during autonomous so that each of your alliance's bots can score two ubertubes.

Now that will never happen..

FIRST Team 2530 "Inconceivable"

Your opponent must also be willing to break a rule and get a penalty.

<G11> ROBOTS may not break the plane of the CENTER LINE. Violation: PENALTY

[mwtidd]

Originally Posted by Sunshine

Your opponent must also be willing to break a rule and get a penalty.

<G11> ROBOTS may not break the plane of the CENTER LINE. Violation: PENALTY

technically they could push the tube so it straddled to the center line, and you could pick it up. The accuracy with nothing to reference would have to be incredible though.

[EricH]

I don't think so, Sunshine.

An Ubertube is not a robot. It is quite possible to push an Ubertube far enough over the line for another robot to grab it without going across yourself. It would take some relatively precision programming, but could be done.

Now whether said Ubertube could be scored autonomously is quite another story.

[Sunshine]

Originally Posted by lineskier

technically they could push the tube so it straddled to the center line, and you could pick it up. The accuracy with nothing to reference would have to be incredible though.

Accuracy and making time stand still.

[JesseK]

If there are any lineups with 3 awesome bots versus 3 broken bots, then this is feasible. My take is 2 main scorers with a carrier bot who gets the right tubes at the right times.

[Eagleeyedan]

Originally Posted by Sunshine

You will see a perfect score with 2 great teams working together. You do not need 3 teams.

As WAVE and Wildstange proved in WI. They only missed 4 tubes and 1 uber tube. It was amazing!

[Eagleeyedan]

Originally Posted by EricH

I don't think so, Sunshine.

An Ubertube is not a robot. It is quite possible to push an Ubertube far enough over the line for another robot to grab it without going across yourself. It would take some relatively precision programming, but could be done.

Now whether said Ubertube could be scored autonomously is quite another story.

That would take a lot of collaboration between teams

[Eagleeyedan]

Originally Posted by Eagleeyedan

As WAVE and Wildstange proved in WI. They only missed 3 tubes and 1 uber tube. It was amazing!

Here's a picture.

[mwtidd]

Originally Posted by Eagleeyedan

Here's a picture.

Technically they missed 2 ubertubes (one is on the middle wrung)

Also going back to the 6 tube autonomous this may be an interesting thing to consider when going against reliable 2 tube autonomous robots.

Take this video of 33...
http://www.youtube.com/user/ketterin.../1/V7WGRe6t1Gg

If your robot was designed to cross mid field and steal the 3rd tube and then cap it, it would cause a pretty substantial change of pace...

rather than your opponent potentially scoring 18 points from a result of that second tube

you could score those 18 points. incurring a 3 pt penalty in doing so.

all in all it would potentially be a *ironically* 33 pt swing.

making a single tube worth basically 33 points versus the traditional 18

[Eagleeyedan]

Originally Posted by lineskier

Technically they missed 2 ubertubes (one is on the middle wrung)

Also going back to the 6 tube autonomous this may be an interesting thing to consider when going against reliable 2 tube autonomous robots.

Take this video of 33...
http://www.youtube.com/user/ketterin.../1/V7WGRe6t1Gg

If your robot was designed to cross mid field and steal the 3rd tube and then cap it, it would cause a pretty substantial change of pace...

rather than your opponent potentially scoring 18 points from a result of that second tube

you could score those 18 points. incurring a 3 pt penalty in doing so.

all in all it would potentially be a *ironically* 33 pt swing.

making a single tube worth basically 33 points versus the traditional 18

Once again, the idea of scoring 6 ubertubes would take a TON of collaboration but it sure would be cool! Maybe that could be something to work on for IRI. Good point about the middle rung though. In the match before that one, 111 was having problems reaching to the top so they made autonomus go to the middle. At the end of this match, they were able to score on the top again.

[KrazyCarl92]

Originally Posted by dodar

We set the national record for most tubes scored in a match by a single robot with 9(1 in auto and 8 in tele-op) in that match.

Team 40 put up 10 tubes in a match at BAE GSR.

[DustinWyke]

I think there is definitely a chance of seeing a perfect score at St. Louis.

But a major question: Is it worth it to score on the bottom row?

The bottom row offers so few points, it would make more sense to switch to defense or to get to the minibot tower early to guarantee a win there.

[WizenedEE]

But is having a slightly smaller chance of winning the match worth the extravagant fame of being the first alliance to ever get a perfect score?

Honestly, 60 teams have won Einstein, you could be one of the three to get the golden score.