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I don't know if team 217 did this on purpose, but when they played against us and 469, we ended up not being able to complete a logo because we couldn't get a white tube (unfortunately, the only one 469 could get to was deflated). So yeah... tube-starving = success
Yep. We did it on purpose. We were severely outgunned in that match and we figured the only way we could win is starve the logo completion and win the minibot race.

I am afraid that as the HP get better, the tube starvation method will be less effective. I am sure we will come up with something else.
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Re: What happened in the finals at West Michigan?

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Yep. We did it on purpose. We were severely outgunned in that match and we figured the only way we could win is starve the logo completion and win the minibot race.

I am afraid that as the HP get better, the tube starvation method will be less effective. I am sure we will come up with something else.
I agree with you, as teams figure out how to best toss those tubes full court, strategies will change and change. Should make for an exciting rest of season! Great finals against you guys at Detroit! See you at Troy!
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Re: What happened in the finals at West Michigan?

So next week we will see a match were no tubes are thrown because HPs are waiting to see what the other HPs are not throwing out.
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So next week we will see a match were no tubes are thrown because HPs are waiting to see what the other HPs are not throwing out.
I doubt it, but that would be funny.
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So next week we will see a match were no tubes are thrown because HPs are waiting to see what the other HPs are not throwing out.
If you watch our first QF match in Detroit, the opposing alliance did not throw any tubes, which became a problem where our alliance stopped throwing tubes resulting in a 20-30 seconds of no tubes.

Eventually our HP saw our coach jumping and waving his hands back and forth and began to throw tubes
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Re: What happened in the finals at West Michigan?

For those of you interested in watching the matches, you can find them in our video here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r09qDdMc74

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We noticed you guys doing that at FLR. We also like how you play a form of "active defense". When you run over to get another tube, you:

a) Make sure to take the one we need
b) Get in our way
c) Make it hard for us

while still scoring. Well played guys, we have lessons to take from you to Boston.
Well summarized. I'd never learned so much playing against a single alliance as I did in the FLR SFs. Definitely taking those lessons to Philly, but I dread to think what their post-tube starving plan is!

Side note: if you plan on tube-starving, have an override signal for your HPs. 201 wasn't the only coach out there jumping around like a lunatic when the plan changed. And plans can always change.
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Hum... So those teams at kettering that thought our LED lighting scheme was pretty neat decoration...

Here is a crop of one of Daniel Ernst's pictures, anyone notice something with our LED decorations?
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Hum... So those teams at kettering that thought our LED lighting scheme was pretty neat decoration...
We actually have HP indicator lights (not as cool as yours, though). And we were using them. And we were flapping our claw. And we were coming down our lane and sitting in front of the HP. And I was waving my arms like crazy.

...Perhaps what I means is, make sure your HP responds to your override signal.
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We actually have HP indicator lights (not as cool as yours, though). And we were using them. And we were flapping our claw. And we were coming down our lane and sitting in front of the HP. And I was waving my arms like crazy.

...Perhaps what I means is, make sure your HP responds to your override signal.
we had HP lights on our robot too (little dinky one's)

came up with a really good way to debug autonomous using them though. Basically I would start with all the lights on, and knock off lights as it moved through the maneuvers, this way I could tell if the camera found the target, or the rangefinder saw the wall, stuff like that .
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Yep. We did it on purpose. We were severely outgunned in that match and we figured the only way we could win is starve the logo completion and win the minibot race.

I am afraid that as the HP get better, the tube starvation method will be less effective. I am sure we will come up with something else.
We noticed you guys doing that at FLR. We also like how you play a form of "active defense". When you run over to get another tube, you:

a) Make sure to take the one we need
b) Get in our way
c) Make it hard for us

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