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Re: pic: FRC 51 - Wings of Fire Preship

Another great looking robot from this team. I have a few questions, why did you have the cord coming from the window motors so long? Also, I see that you didn't gear the speed up, rather you geared it down. Is there a reason for that as well?

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Re: pic: FRC 51 - Wings of Fire Preship

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Another great looking robot from this team. I have a few questions, why did you have the cord coming from the window motors so long? Also, I see that you didn't gear the speed up, rather you geared it down. Is there a reason for that as well?

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The cord from the window motors are belt-drives for the gripper. It's so long because we wanted the motors back at the pivot point of the arm so the torque required to move the arm is as small as possible.

For the gearing, it's actually direct drive off of the window motors. We have bigger pulleys driving the gripper now, which makes it a little faster.
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The cord from the window motors are belt-drives for the gripper. It's so long because we wanted the motors back at the pivot point of the arm so the torque required to move the arm is as small as possible.

For the gearing, it's actually direct drive off of the window motors. We have bigger pulleys driving the gripper now, which makes it a little faster.
Did you have any trouble of the cord slipping? We had a gripper setup with the window motors and cord as well. We had some slippage in a few different variations.
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Did you have any trouble of the cord slipping? We had a gripper setup with the window motors and cord as well. We had some slippage in a few different variations.
The cords slip a little, but not too often. We don't consider that a problem - we consider it a clutch that keeps things from breaking.
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Beautiful machine again this year Chris!


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The cords slip a little, but not too often. We don't consider that a problem - we consider it a clutch that keeps things from breaking.
If slipage is an issue try routing your drive cords in an "X" shaped loop rather than an "O". This will get you a bit more wrap over the drive pulleys.

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If slipage is an issue try routing your drive cords in an "X" shaped loop rather than an "O". This will get you a bit more wrap over the drive pulleys.

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What I also did was use a "floating tensioner". (a zip tie)
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