pic: Lamp_Switch

[IKE]

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[Jared Russell]

Where was this taken?

(And does it come in DPDT?)

[Clinton Bolinger]

That looks like a Home Depot sales tag.

-Clinton-

[The Lucas]

Are you planning on pulling up CD on a smartphone if there is any questions during the inspection process?
Hey look, Al said it was "A-OK", and he knows more than like all of us combined

[The Lucas]

Originally Posted by Jared341

Where was this taken?

(And does it come in DPDT?)

Doesn't look like any DPDT it at Home Depot, but here is the link to the page (hope it works outside of my local store).

[EDIT] Amazon has this Product Description

Originally Posted by Amazon

Single pole, single throw maintained contact. For household appliances, various lamps, and lighting fixtures. 2 prewired 6" stripped leads. 3A 250V AC; 3A 125VT; 6A 125V AC; 6A 125VL. UL listed. Nickel plated, 1 per card.

Emphasis mine. If this is interpreted as legal, we can probably make the bestseller jump from #139,085 in Home Improvement

[TheOtherGuy]

Team 60 had one of these on their minibot in AZ. We (inspectors) let it slide, but I think it's cutting pretty far into the gray area of what's allowed.

[Sunshine]

Originally Posted by TheOtherGuy

Team 60 had one of these on their minibot in AZ. We (inspectors) let it slide, but I think it's cutting pretty far into the gray area of what's allowed.

Why:
I have this exact switch on my desk lamp that is right in front of me?

Rules state: no more than two common household light switches.

What else would this switch be used for if not a light switch?

[TheOtherGuy]

Originally Posted by Sunshine

Why:
I have this exact switch on my desk lamp that is right in front of me?

Rules state: no more than two common household light switches.

What else would this switch be used for if not a light switch?

I think I may have exaggerated, but it's mostly a question of interpretation; when I hear the term "common household light switch", I think of the typical light switch found as a part of a house that controls a light in the house. A desk lamp switch just doesn't seem to me like a "household light switch". I know there are questions in the Q&A about the non-slip pad, and the GDC has ruled that only materials marketed as a pad with non-slip properties are allowed. This lamp switch isn't really marketed as a common household light switch.

Again, just interpretation.

[IKE]

This was taken at Home Depot. Yes, there is a SPDT (all that is necessary) right next to it, but ... it doesn't say "lamp". The DPDT in the same area was a toggle switch at this particular Home Depot. I don't think the packaging on this particular switch mentions "lamps" or "lights".

I took this picture as proof that it was a marketed as a "lamp switch" which I believed was a reasonable interpretation of the update about "light switches".

I would never reference "CD" as an official rules source, but I value the opinions of many members of this community. I thought I would get some opinion feedback on this particular switch before investing another $16 on switches (2/minibot). I don't want to sound cheap, but the minibot budget has quickly ramped into a level that would be a reasonable budget for many main robots. Yes the kit was "free", but spares and blown motors, and extra batteries, light switches, and 3-way lgiht switches, and 4-way light switches and and and ... start adding up really quickly.

I know the limit switches come in SPDT variety, but they are less than 2N of force for most of the reasonable ones of those, thus requiring some sort of additinal mechanism.

[scott]

447 used a similar lamp switch on our minibot at BMR. We purchased ours from a local TrueValue. We passed inspection, but was told we were really pushing the interpretation of common household light switch. After a team discussion, we decided that we could continue to use the switch as it is used commonly on lamps and the wall-mount requirement was removed in an update.

Just my $0.02

Also FYI, during the regional we successfully deployed on the field twice (+ numerous successes on the practice field) and successfully triggered the tower both times.

[MrHance]

"I think I may have exaggerated, but it's mostly a question of interpretation; when I hear the term "common household light switch", I think of the typical light switch found as a part of a house that controls a light in the house. A desk lamp switch just doesn't seem to me like a "household light switch". I know there are questions in the Q&A about the non-slip pad, and the GDC has ruled that only materials marketed as a pad with non-slip properties are allowed. This lamp switch isn't really marketed as a common household light switch."

In reference to the above comment. I would refer that the switch in question is indeed used in household application as it is used in some light fixtures in the bathroom, bedroom and kitchen (on the exhaust hood above the stove). This would make it a household common light switch.

Past observations living in many apartments and house over the last 40 years or so.

[thefro526]

I bought four of these from Home Depot Yesterday.

The Back of the packaging says "For lamp and lighting fixtures" - I'm pretty sure it's a light switch.

[sanddrag]

There should be no "this is really pushing it, but we'll allow it" with the rules. A switch is either for a household lamp/light or isn't. It's not a matter of anyone's opinion. This switch is. See the description.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HEFDMY

Also, see Team Update 12.

[Carlinh]

I know of 1 team that used this type of switch at Waterford and was warned not to show up at their next competetion with the same switch unless they could show that is was a light switch and not a lamp switch!!! So beware!!

[Al Skierkiewicz]

Guys,
We inspect to the rules and interpretations given us by the GDC. Our direction is in TU#12...

Therefore, “light switches” permitted on the MINIBOT are not confined to those used in wall mounting boxes; anything sold as a “light switch” for household use is allowed.

If it says "lightswitch" on the box, card, bin, or website and you can show that the label stating "lightswitch" matches the switch you are using, we must pass it.