Go to Post Successful FIRST team members know they always can improve themselves, not just as a FIRST team, but as people who can offer something of value to society. - [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #16   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-03-2011, 16:51
XaulZan11's Avatar
XaulZan11 XaulZan11 is offline
Registered User
AKA: John Christiansen
FRC #1732
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Milwaukee, Wi
Posts: 1,329
XaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to XaulZan11
Re: Best Robot

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Scheck View Post
...yeah...imagine that...
I assume that roughly 24 hours from now we won't have to imagine what that will look like?
Reply With Quote
  #17   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-03-2011, 17:28
Brandon Holley's Avatar
Brandon Holley Brandon Holley is offline
Chase perfection. Catch excellence.
AKA: Let's bring CD back to the way it used to be
FRC #0125 (NU-TRONs, Team #11 Alumni (GO MORT))
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 2,593
Brandon Holley has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon Holley has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon Holley has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon Holley has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon Holley has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon Holley has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon Holley has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon Holley has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon Holley has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon Holley has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon Holley has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Brandon Holley
Re: Best Robot

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach Tom View Post
Most of the OPR data is based on one regional per team. Without a full statistical analysis (blocking data, etc.) and more data, the uncertainty in the OPR rankings must be pretty big. My guess +/- 15 points. I agree with a prior post, no one robot is standing out in a big way.
I partially agree with your assessment, but disagree on most of it.

Yes having other data such as blocking data and what not is useful, however its impossible to correlate that into a statistical analysis we can use across every competition.

OPR isn't the end all be all metric of a team's success, but this list has some pretty darn good robots on it so its valid in some sense.

As far as no one robot standing out in a big way, I have to disagree there. Look at 67 and 1114 both well into the 60s. The 3rd highest is 111 at 58 and then theres a steady decline from there. These 2 teams to me seem to be standing out in some degree above the rest. However, taking a team with say a 58 OPR and dropping them in the same competition as 67 or 1114 may result in either team's number fluctuating based on the equalized playing field.

Just my .02

-Brando
__________________
MORT (Team 11) '01-'05 :
-2005 New Jersey Regional Chairman's Award Winners
-2013 MORT Hall of Fame Inductee

NUTRONs (Team 125) '05-???
2007 Boston Regional Winners
2008 & 2009 Boston Regional Driving Tomorrow's Technology Award
2010 Boston Regional Creativity Award
2011 Bayou Regional Finalists, Innovation in Control Award, Boston Regional Finalists, Industrial Design Award
2012 New York City Regional Winners, Boston Regional Finalists, IRI Mentor of the Year
2013 Orlando Regional Finalists, Industrial Design Award, Boston Regional Winners, Pine Tree Regional Finalists
2014 Rhode Island District Winners, Excellence in Engineering Award, Northeastern University District Winners, Industrial Design Award, Pine Tree District Chairman's Award, Pine Tree District Winners
2015 South Florida Regional Chairman's Award, NU District Winners, NEDCMP Industrial Design Award, Hopper Division Finalists, Hopper/Newton Gracious Professionalism Award
Reply With Quote
  #18   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-03-2011, 22:20
Yankeefan181's Avatar
Yankeefan181 Yankeefan181 is offline
1540 Co-Captain
AKA: Tucker
FRC #1540 (Flaming Chickens)
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 49
Yankeefan181 is a jewel in the roughYankeefan181 is a jewel in the roughYankeefan181 is a jewel in the rough
Re: Best Robot

Quote:
Originally Posted by JABot67 View Post
Around the top level, a lot of the robots have about the same capabilities. I believe that 1114 is no outlier this year, and that teams like 111 and 254 have robots that are just as good. What it comes down to at the high level is having a consistent and effective autonomous, very good, well practiced drivers, and grand strategy. There really isn't a robot this year that can dominate all others, and there is no clear winner, despite what you 1114-hypers like to believe every year. I do believe that 1114's ability to score two Ubertubes in autonomous is a huge advantage for them, along with the other teams who can do the same, but that just means they have good programmers, not a robot that's better than everyone else's.
I would actually argue that 987 has a better robot than 254. Even though 254 went 10-0 in qualifications, 987 ranked higher in our scouting because it appeared as though they had better drivers and made logos much easier than 254. That being said, 254 does have a better mini-bot.
Reply With Quote
  #19   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 24-03-2011, 10:37
Patrick Seeney Patrick Seeney is offline
Patrick Seeney
FRC #0469 (Las Guerrillas)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Rookie Year: 1999
Location: Royal Oak, MI
Posts: 31
Patrick Seeney is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Best Robot

I think this is a great thread, but something that has to be taken with a grain of salt. Many teams will improve drastically between their first competition and championships. Our team didn't even field a robot with our full capaibilites during the Detroit regional, and I am sure there are many teams that are in the same boat. Our drivers didn't have much practice before the regional, and as they practice and do more events they will get better...as will other drivers.

In my opinion 217, 148, and 1114 are the best up until now. 217 has won two events, so how can they not be included with 148 and 1114?

My two cents.
Reply With Quote
  #20   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 24-03-2011, 12:21
akoscielski3's Avatar
akoscielski3 akoscielski3 is offline
Mentor (1114), Alumni (772)
AKA: Aaron Koscielski
FRC #1114 (Simbotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: LaSalle, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,066
akoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Best Robot

Can someone clarify what the OPR is???

Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #21   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 24-03-2011, 14:47
roystur44's Avatar
roystur44 roystur44 is offline
Mentor/Sponsor
AKA: Roy Dumlao
FRC #4543 (Apollo Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: San Jose,California
Posts: 363
roystur44 has a reputation beyond reputeroystur44 has a reputation beyond reputeroystur44 has a reputation beyond reputeroystur44 has a reputation beyond reputeroystur44 has a reputation beyond reputeroystur44 has a reputation beyond reputeroystur44 has a reputation beyond reputeroystur44 has a reputation beyond reputeroystur44 has a reputation beyond reputeroystur44 has a reputation beyond reputeroystur44 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to roystur44
Re: Best Robot

Don't forget about Team 971. Due to budget constraints we don't get to play till week 5. All I can say is we have been watching, practicing, learning from all the mistakes, and making improvements in all areas we can think of. The robot is the best robot we have built so far. She's fast and smooth and has a few tricks up her sleeve

We play at SVR next week. Take a peak.
__________________
Roy Dumlao

Mentor/Sponsor
2006-2012 971
2013-2017 4543
Reply With Quote
  #22   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 24-03-2011, 14:49
torihoelscher's Avatar
torihoelscher torihoelscher is offline
Wow I feel old
AKA: Princess Leia
no team
Team Role: College Student
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Palm Harbor FL
Posts: 191
torihoelscher has a brilliant futuretorihoelscher has a brilliant futuretorihoelscher has a brilliant futuretorihoelscher has a brilliant futuretorihoelscher has a brilliant futuretorihoelscher has a brilliant futuretorihoelscher has a brilliant futuretorihoelscher has a brilliant futuretorihoelscher has a brilliant futuretorihoelscher has a brilliant futuretorihoelscher has a brilliant future
Send a message via AIM to torihoelscher
Re: Best Robot

Well, not too sure about the best robot because we dont want to jinx anyone!

Happy regionals!
__________________
Tori Hoelscher

FLL
FTC
FRC

"May the [mass x acceleration] be with you"
"Aren't you a little short to be a storm trooper?"

Alumni of Team 79 Krunch.
Reply With Quote
  #23   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 24-03-2011, 15:32
tim-tim's Avatar
tim-tim tim-tim is offline
Simplicity by Design...
AKA: Tim Miedzinski
FRC #0836 (The RoboBees)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Hollywood
Posts: 605
tim-tim has a reputation beyond reputetim-tim has a reputation beyond reputetim-tim has a reputation beyond reputetim-tim has a reputation beyond reputetim-tim has a reputation beyond reputetim-tim has a reputation beyond reputetim-tim has a reputation beyond reputetim-tim has a reputation beyond reputetim-tim has a reputation beyond reputetim-tim has a reputation beyond reputetim-tim has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Best Robot

Quote:
Originally Posted by akoscielski3 View Post
Can someone clarify what the OPR is???

Thanks
OPR is Offensive Power Ranking
__________________
The RoboBees

Tim's Shortcuts Anderson Powerpoles and Crimper, Star/Tube Nuts
Reply With Quote
  #24   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 24-03-2011, 20:01
Bongle's Avatar
Bongle Bongle is offline
Registered User
FRC #2702 (REBotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Waterloo
Posts: 1,069
Bongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to Bongle
Re: Best Robot

Quote:
Originally Posted by akoscielski3 View Post
Can someone clarify what the OPR is???

Thanks
It the result of a moderately complex calculation. Essentially, your OPR is how many points your robot is expected to contribute to your alliance. So those top robots are expected to contribute about 60 points to an alliance's score. A more average robot this year is in the 5-10 point range. A negative score indicates your robot/team tends to take penalties or get in the way.

If you search for the oldest big thread that mentions it, it'll have the mathematical definition. If you find the "easy to use OPR" thread, that includes my program which can calculate it.

Last edited by Bongle : 24-03-2011 at 20:03.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 16:33.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi