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Week 5 OPR

Using OPRnet and the attached batch file (rename to week5.bat after downloading), I came up with the attached spreadsheet detailing OPR results for all events through Week 5.

Note - OPRnet version 15 fails to calculate OPR's for Midwest and the Troy District, but these have been posted by others elsewhere on CD.

The batch file is prepopulated with Week 6 events and outputs all results to "allranks.txt", so you should be able to run it after next week's events and generate a new file.
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Re: Week 5 OPR

Looks like GTREast was a remarkably weak/top heavy regional. 1114 and 1503 had high OPR, then a second tier from 188/1075/907, and then everyone else.
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Re: Week 5 OPR

The sixth highest OPR in the country is a team that cannot floor load at all.

If that's not a testament to great driving and simplicity, nothing is.
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Re: Week 5 OPR

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The sixth highest OPR in the countryworld is a team that cannot floor load at all.

If that's not a testament to great driving and simplicity, nothing is.
Fixed it for you.
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The sixth highest OPR in the country is a team that cannot floor load at all.

If that's not a testament to great driving and simplicity, nothing is.
Nick and 1503 are terrible. Nobody pay attention to them at CMP. So bad. Don't even scout them.
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Nick and 1503 are terrible. Nobody pay attention to them at CMP. So bad. Don't even scout them.
I'm cool with this.

I'm still stunned that we're that high up there. I just can't get it to add up in my head.

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Nick and 1503 are terrible. Nobody pay attention to them at CMP. So bad. Don't even scout them.
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Cannot pick up off floor, Do Not Pick!!!!!

1503 is wicked good this year!
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I'm cool with this.

I'm still stunned that we're that high up there. I just can't get it to add up in my head.

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So, first you don't understand Squares - and now you don't understand math? What's this world coming to?

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It's interesting to see that 111 edged out 1114 for the number one spot. I'd love to see them play one another.
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So, first you don't understand Squares - and now you don't understand math? What's this world coming to?

(Just kidding bro, you know you're the man.)

It's interesting to see that 111 edged out 1114 for the number one spot. I'd love to see them play one another.

A fine example of the wonderful Canadian educational system eh?
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Question OPR: Qualification vs. Elimination rounds

Any interested in calculating the OPR's for each team on a Qualification Rounds versus Elimination rounds basis? It would seem to me that the statistics would fall into two distinct blocks.

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[1]OPR's during qualification rounds would most closely reflect the scoring power of an individual team
[2]OPR's during elimination rounds would most closely reflect the scoring power of an alliance

Since elimination play for the top teams can represent about 33% of their matches, breaking out the analysis would be interesting. Does anyone else agree?
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Re: Week 5 OPR

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The sixth highest OPR in the country is a team that cannot floor load at all.

If that's not a testament to great driving and simplicity, nothing is.
Why does no floor loading = simplicity? In fact, having a mechanism that can line up to the exact height of the slot and that can successfully grip a tube without having the human player extend past the slot sounds just as difficult as a consistent floor loader. It's an apples/oranges situation.

Plus, the fact that 9/10 of the top OPR robots floor load probably suggests what overall is the most successful strategy.
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Re: OPR: Qualification vs. Elimination rounds

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Any interested in calculating the OPR's for each team on a Qualification Rounds versus Elimination rounds basis? It would seem to me that the statistics would fall into two distinct blocks.

Hypothesis:

[1]OPR's during qualification rounds would most closely reflect the scoring power of an individual team
[2]OPR's during elimination rounds would most closely reflect the scoring power of an alliance

Since elimination play for the top teams can represent about 33% of their matches, breaking out the analysis would be interesting. Does anyone else agree?
OPRNet only uses Qual matches. Elims skew the results (power of alliance as you say)
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Why does no floor loading = simplicity? In fact, having a mechanism that can line up to the exact height of the slot and that can successfully grip a tube without having the human player extend past the slot sounds just as difficult as a consistent floor loader. It's an apples/oranges situation.
1503's robot is dead simple. The only actuation is a single arm motor and a very ordinary pneumatic pinch claw. No other joints, flip down mechanisms, or anything else. Grabbing from the loader is as simple as putting the arm at the right height.
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Wink OPR: Qualification vs. Elimination rounds

Thanks for the background education. I guess I was thinking right!
I am glad to hear that only elimination rounds are evaluated. It seems reasonable and best.
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Re: Week 5 OPR

1503 is an exception and not the rule. Give there robot to any other driver and it would be another decent but not great robot. Nick makes that robot excellent so saying simplicity is the secret to success is selling his skill a bit short. I stick by our teams, and the majority of successful teams decisions in that floor loading is necessary to be competitive at champs.
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