Championship Division question.

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

In 2002 through 2004 the divisions were released the Tuesday 9 days before the beginning of the championship. That ended up ranging anywhere from before the last regional ended (2003) to 10 days after the last regional ended (2002).

In 2005, the divisions were released on a Monday, 10 days before the beginning of the championship (9 days after the end of the last regionals).

In 2006, the divisions were released on a Friday, 13 days before the beginning of the championship (13 days after the end of the last regionals).

In 2007-2009, the divisions were released on a Wednesday, 8 days before the beginning of the championship (3-4 days after the end of the last regionals).

In 2010, the divisions were released on a Thursday, 7 days before the beginning of the championship (4 days after the end of the last regionals)

Now was that the day that they were officially announced or the day that some people found the list ahead of time?

[BrendanB]

Originally Posted by rtfgnow

Now was that the day that they were officially announced or the day that some people found the list ahead of time?

Haha good one! That was really funny, I won't believe anything this year until I see the list.

[548swimmer]

I assume the divisions are assigned so that each division is equally difficult to win. Is this right?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by 548swimmer

I assume the divisions are assigned so that each division is equally difficult to win. Is this right?

Nope, it's random or pseudorandom. No difficulty rating assigned to any division. This does tend to produce a stacked division every year--that's the division that you want to be in to win the division and not be in to win the whole thing.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by 548swimmer

I assume the divisions are assigned so that each division is equally difficult to win. Is this right?

No.

I imagine among other reasons, no one at FIRST has such an intimate knowledge of every single robot and team that they could actually pull that off.

[548swimmer]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

No.

I imagine among other reasons, no one at FIRST has such an intimate knowledge of every single robot and team that they could actually pull that off.

I was thinking that they could use some sort of ranking system (maybe OPR?) to sort. But random should work well too.

[BrendanB]

Originally Posted by 548swimmer

I was thinking that they could use some sort of ranking system (maybe OPR?) to sort. But random should work well too.

But then you wouldn't have fun/intense eliminations like archimedes 2010, galileo 2008, and newton 2006.

[548swimmer]

Originally Posted by BrendanB

But then you wouldn't have fun/intense eliminations like archimedes 2010, galileo 2008, and newton 2006.

True. How do we find out which division is "stacked"?

[TKM.368]

Originally Posted by 548swimmer

True. How do we find out which division is "stacked"?

With a little bit of patience (actually, you don't have to wait that long), the stacked division will be revealed via posts on CD.

[Koko Ed]

Back in the day we used to be able to anticipate who was going to be in what division by using their fairly simple code for picking divisions. They have since changed that so it's not quite so easy to do so.

[kenavt]

I was wondering if FIRST tends to put teams in a division they have been in before (keep them in the same division). For example, 2337 has been in Curie 2 of 2 times. 1114 has also been in Curie 4 of 7 times. 111 has been on Newton 4 of 7 in the past seven years as well (both 1114 and 111 from TBA).

[AcesJames]

Originally Posted by kenavt

I was wondering if FIRST tends to put teams in a division they have been in before (keep them in the same division). For example, 2337 has been in Curie 2 of 2 times. 1114 has also been in Curie 4 of 7 times. 111 has been on Newton 4 of 7 in the past seven years as well (both 1114 and 111 from TBA).

Looking at TBA I've noticed a pattern as well.

176 was on Newton 02 - 06. In 07 we were on Curie, 08 was Galileo, and then 09 and 10 were Archimedes. So that's Newton 5/9, Archimedes 2/9, Curie 1/9, and Galileo 1/9. I wonder if most teams that attend CMP every year have that one division they are in more frequently than others.

[MagiChau]

Originally Posted by AcesJames

Looking at TBA I've noticed a pattern as well.

176 was on Newton 02 - 06. In 07 we were on Curie, 08 was Galileo, and then 09 and 10 were Archimedes. So that's Newton 5/9, Archimedes 2/9, Curie 1/9, and Galileo 1/9. I wonder if most teams that attend CMP every year have that one division they are in more frequently than others.

For BOB I didn't really notice a pattern for our divisions. Don't know what division we were in for '02.

'10 was Galileo
'09 was Newton
'08 was Archimedes
'07 was Archimedes
'06 was Newton
'05 was Curie
'01 was Curie

[Duke461]

Does anybody know how many teams will be at Championships this year? (assuming teams fill up the spots correctly)
And is this the list of teams that already going for sure?

[dodar]

I guess we have a little bit of a tendency: '05 Galileo, '06 Archimedes, '07 Newton, '08 Curie, '09 Archimedes, '10 Newton, '11 Here's praying we get in