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Unread 14-04-2011, 16:38
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Re: Division Predictions/Reactions

Travis,

thanks for doing this!!
Is there any way you could do a serpentine version of this?

Does anyone remember what they have used in recent years?
I know for many years it was the simple 1,2,3,4--5,6,7,8---9,10,11,12...

From my recollection a couple of years ago it went to serpentine...

1,2,3,4-- 8,7,6,5 ---9.10,11,12 --- 16,15,14,13...

I honestly can't remember what was done last year...

thanks again!!

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Re: Division Predictions/Reactions

Last year there was either no pattern or it was complex enough that nobody was able to crack it - the assignments seemed pretty random.
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Last year there was either no pattern or it was complex enough that nobody was able to crack it - the assignments seemed pretty random.
I'm sure FIRST did the math. They always do the math. Just not math humans use.
It was probably given to them from NASA from the aliens so we'd quit predicting the divisions before they release it.
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Re: Division Predictions/Reactions

The divisions are slowly appearing.
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The divisions are slowly appearing.
There should be some additions to the divisions early next week. I know one team in particular that could be a late addition.
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Unread 14-04-2011, 17:05
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Travis,

thanks for doing this!!
Is there any way you could do a serpentine version of this?

See attached. And, um....

Code:
 
St. Catharines, ON 1114 Archimedes  67.14
Schaumburg, IL     111  Archimedes  66.34
Greenville, TX     148  Archimedes  63.88
San Jose, CA       254  Archimedes  60.39
Stoney Creek, ON   2056 Archimedes  57.29
Hopkins, MI        2054 Archimedes  53.82
Hammond, IN        71   Archimedes  49.79
League City, TX    118  Archimedes  46.72
Warren, OH         48   Archimedes  45.91
...yeah....no.
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See attached...

...yeah....no.
What, you don't want to be the 8th seed captain against 1114/111?
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Could you imagine if each of them picked their own alliances? OMG that would be the greatest quarterfinals ever
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Unread 14-04-2011, 17:15
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What, you don't want to be the 8th seed captain against 1114/111?
We'd move up to 7th and probably 6th or more if that were a ranking list. It would be a Team IFI Royal Rumble.

The divisional balance is far, far more skewed out of whack with serpentine than with the standard sort. I kinda liked the standard sort myself. But again, this is all a pointless exercise!
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Re: Division Predictions/Reactions

How about instead of doing the divisions with the 348 teams that are in, do a divisional breakdown with the top 348 OPR teams and then see how the divisions would breakdown with the same sort you did the first time.
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How about instead of doing the divisions with the 348 teams that are in, do a divisional breakdown with the top 348 OPR teams and then see how the divisions would breakdown with the same sort you did the first time.
Probably about as balanced as you're going to get.

I wonder if FIRST even considers sorting like this. Attachment:
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Re: Division Predictions/Reactions

You didnt do it with the top 348 teams with the highest OPR
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You didnt do it with the top 348 teams with the highest OPR
I sorted by Average OPR for all 348 CMP teams and then assigned A-C-G-N.

I think what you are suggesting is just a bit too unrealistic, even for this thread, because teams staying home with higher OPR's than CMP participating teams are still not going to attend the CMP this year....

I leave anything else as an exercise for the reader.
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Oh man... If somehow that was our actual division...
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I prefer the first attempt with 111 and 3132 in the same division. No real reason, just a strange personal bias.
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