Vex "Gateway" 2011-2012 VRC Game

[gblake]

http://www.vexforum.com/wiki/index.php/Gateway

Looks like another fun year of monthly tournaments in the DC, Baltimore and Philly regions

[Duke461]

When is the kickoff/game animation going to be released?

[MattC9]

Originally Posted by Duke461

When is the kickoff/game animation going to be released?

Kick off of the game was today, but i haven't seen the game animation for it yet. The game looks ok, a challenge to say the least. Its going to be slow moving and low scoring, unlike this years game. This game is going to rely on the teams strategy

[Duke461]

Originally Posted by MattC9

Kick off of the game was today, but i haven't seen the game animation for it yet. The game looks ok, a challenge to say the least. Its going to be slow moving and low scoring, unlike this years game. This game is going to rely on the teams strategy

That's interesting you say that:
"VEX Gateway is intended to be an offensive game" from the game manual. But i guess in comparison to round up there will be a lot fewer points.
They need to explain the part where the humans can go on to the field, they're not clarifying that very well.

[MattC9]

Originally Posted by Duke461

That's interesting you say that:
"VEX Gateway is intended to be an offensive game" from the game manual. But i guess in comparison to round up there will be a lot fewer points.
They need to explain the part where the humans can go on to the field, they're not clarifying that very well.

Do you know what poped into my head when they said "VEX gateway is intended to be an offensive game"? LOGOMOTION. But it should be pretty interesting, there defiantly lots of room for different designs and iterations.

Also, the gate rules are also a little unclear

<SG11> Drivers or Coaches may lift their own Gate at any time during the Match. Once lifting of the Gate
had begun it must be finished promptly and the Gate cannot be dropped. Both Gates must be lifted and
latched before thirty (30) seconds are remaining in the Match. Violations of this rule will result in a
Disqualification of both teams on the offending Alliance.

What does "latched" really mean? because you can latch a gate closed, but can you latch a gate open?

[Duke461]

Originally Posted by MattC9

Do you know what poped into my head when they said "VEX gateway is intended to be an offensive game"? LOGOMOTION. But it should be pretty interesting, there defiantly lots of room for different designs and iterations.

Also, the gate rules are also a little unclear


What does "latched" really mean? because you can latch a gate closed, but can you latch a gate open?

Yep. There's a lot of weird rules that will hopefully get cleared up by a visual, aka animation

[The Zevling]

Anybody else have difficulty opening the manual?

[J93Wagner]

What part are you trying to open? If you mean the game manual, then I didn't have a problem. If you're trying to open up the appendixes, then you will likely need WinRAR (or an equivalent program if there is such a thing).

[BrentJ]

Originally Posted by MattC9

Do you know what poped into my head when they said "VEX gateway is intended to be an offensive game"? LOGOMOTION. But it should be pretty interesting, there defiantly lots of room for different designs and iterations.

Also, the gate rules are also a little unclear


What does "latched" really mean? because you can latch a gate closed, but can you latch a gate open?

From reading the rules it seems clear to me they mean latched open.
Because in the rule they say the gate has to be lifted before the last 30 seconds and they also say it must be completed promptly.

[davepowers]

I've pretty much read the entire manual and I'm still pretty confused. I defiantly need to see the animation. Surely going to be an interesting year;]. Good luck to everyone!

[pwnageNick]

What does "latched" really mean? because you can latch a gate closed, but can you latch a gate open?

The way I interpreted it was that there is probably some kind of latch on the field wall where you latch the gate once its up so the coach doesn't have to sit there holding it up the whole match.

They need to explain the part where the humans can go on to the field, they're not clarifying that very well.

I don't feel like opening up my manuel cause I'm lazy ( ) but I think basically if you're robot wasn't able to move at the beginning of the match you can reach in and ix the battery/cord/cpu/etc. to get it to run as long as its touching your colored mat tile (which if it wasn't moving should not be a problem). Whether they covered it in the rules or not, VEX won't allow people to walk onto the field to fix a robot or anything crazy like that. I think they basically added this because they were tired of seeing matches go to a waste because teams couldn't move. As far as discussion that has been going on so far about whether this could be like FLL where you add and subtract "attachments", I don't believe that will work because (once again, paraphrasing cause I'm lazy) the definition of a robot is anything brought to the field that is not a controller or person. So you can't keep attachments with you to put on later; at least the way I'm interpreting it.

I've pretty much read the entire manual and I'm still pretty confused. I defiantly need to see the animation. Surely going to be an interesting year;]. Good luck to everyone!

They played the animation at World, so I'm sure they will put it up once this weekend is over. They will probably post Appendix's B,C,D,E soon too.

This season's going to be awesome. And DISNEYLAND!!! Cali here we come. But gotta focus on St. Louis first

See everyone on the field in St. Louis and this coming season for Gateway!

[Duke461]

I understand SG5 and SG6, but I don't understand SG15. What are the human players allowed to do once the gates are lifted?

[J93Wagner]

Originally Posted by pwnageNick

I don't feel like opening up my manuel cause I'm lazy ( ) but I think basically if you're robot wasn't able to move at the beginning of the match you can reach in and ix the battery/cord/cpu/etc. to get it to run as long as its touching your colored mat tile (which if it wasn't moving should not be a problem). Whether they covered it in the rules or not, VEX won't allow people to walk onto the field to fix a robot or anything crazy like that. I think they basically added this because they were tired of seeing matches go to a waste because teams couldn't move. As far as discussion that has been going on so far about whether this could be like FLL where you add and subtract "attachments", I don't believe that will work because (once again, paraphrasing cause I'm lazy) the definition of a robot is anything brought to the field that is not a controller or person. So you can't keep attachments with you to put on later; at least the way I'm interpreting it.

The manual says that people can reach in and adjust something on the robot provided it hasn't moved out the starting area.

Hope that clears up part of the confusion.

[Duke461]

Originally Posted by J93Wagner

The manual says that people can reach in and adjust something on the robot provided it hasn't moved out the starting area.

Hope that clears up part of the confusion.

That's not most confusing part. SG15 is what makes no sense
Hopefully someone understands that

[J93Wagner]

Huh. I would guess that... Nah... What if... Nah, that doesn't make sense either...

I give up on that rule. It's definitely going to need clarification.