Android app FRC Spyder - 2011

[Dave Flowerday]

Mike works on the Android app side while I work on the backend server & iPhone versions, so I'll let Mike comment more on 1 and 4, but here's my brief answers:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa

1) When you update the entire app from the top-tier, all of your favorite events and teams get wiped.

Yes, this is a known issue.

4) When you get pushed a score notification for a team's match, when you select that update bar, the notification goes away and does not bring you to the app to view the match. It acts only as a reminder for you to check your app for the results...

The behavior of this is that clicking on the notification in the dropdown opens the app and starts an update of that event. If this is not working for you please let us know what phone you're using and any other relevant information you have (Android version, etc).

2 and 3 are mostly my area of responsibility, so here's my answers for those:

2) Saturday morning of the Seattle Cascade regional the scores stopped coming for some reason.

The reason is that the Cascade regional stopped publishing data from the event. If the regionals aren't publishing it we can't get it.

In fact, it currently lacks most of Saturday's Quals and even the Elims...

No, the full results for Cascade have been available in the app since FIRST posted them last Monday afternoon. Use the menu button and select "Update Results" when you're viewing that event.

3) Thursday night, when the FIRST schedule was released for the Autodesk Oregon regional, it was posted incorrectly (all of the matches). In fact, it continued to be entirely inaccurate until around an hour in on Friday (If I remember correctly). However, it got fixed and worked great the rest of the regional.

This isn't an issue with FRC Spyder - we use whatever data is published by FIRST. I didn't see the match list in question, but I'm assuming they regenerated the match list on Friday morning for some reason making the one uploaded Thursday night invalid.

[TKM.368]

Once again, great app. One request - is it possible on the Schedule list and Results list to click on a match and have the Team info come up for just those teams as they do when you select the Teams button? Sometimes it's hard to remember which teams are from where, etc.

Thanks again for this!

[George A.]

Do you have any update about a possible iphone version coming out?

[Dave Flowerday]

Originally Posted by George A.

Do you have any update about a possible iphone version coming out?

I submitted a version today. No promises on when it may be approved.

The lack of an iPhone version so far this year is because of the large difference in effort and cost for developing for iPhone versus Android. Android development is free and relatively easy, iPhone development is costly and more difficult. I was the only person on the development team who used an iPhone last year and I have since upgraded to an Android device.

[George A.]

Originally Posted by Dave Flowerday

I submitted a version today. No promises on when it may be approved.

The lack of an iPhone version so far this year is because of the large difference in effort and cost for developing for iPhone versus Android. Android development is free and relatively easy, iPhone development is costly and more difficult. I was the only person on the development team who used an iPhone last year and I have since upgraded to an Android device.

I didn't know the disparity between developing for iphone versus android was that large. Either way thanks for all the work you put into this!

[Navid Shafa]

Originally Posted by Dave Flowerday

The behavior of this is that clicking on the notification in the dropdown opens the app and starts an update of that event. If this is not working for you please let us know what phone you're using and any other relevant information you have (Android version, etc).

This may be partially due to the fact that I'm running it on a rooted base. I'm currently using a MyTouch Slide 3G with Cyanogen Mod. This isn't really a major issue though.

Thanks again for everything!

[jason701802]

This app was very helpful for keeping up to date with both the Seattle and Oregon regionals, thank you all for your great work with this app. After using it for these two events, the biggest thing I wish it had was an indication when a team got a red card. It is slightly confusing when looking at a team's match results and seeing that they have won a certain number of matches and lost a certain number of matches but having the rankings not match.

[Vikesrock]

Originally Posted by jason701802

This app was very helpful for keeping up to date with both the Seattle and Oregon regionals, thank you all for your great work with this app. After using it for these two events, the biggest thing I wish it had was an indication when a team got a red card. It is slightly confusing when looking at a team's match results and seeing that they have won a certain number of matches and lost a certain number of matches but having the rankings not match.

The issue is that this data is not published by FIRST. Mention it at your post-season forum, if enough of us do maybe FIRST will find a way to clearly indicate surrogates and DQs in the match results or Twitter feeds next year.

[Mike Soukup]

Thanks for all of the comments Navid.

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa

1) When you update the entire app from the top-tier, all of your favorite events and teams get wiped.

Yes, I discovered this one a couple weeks ago; it'll require a bit of work to fix. However, there's no reason for you to run an update from the main screen, all it does is grab the team & event lists, it doesn't pull down any event results. You should update from the event list or an event's page.

4) When you get pushed a score notification for a team's match, when you select that update bar, the notification goes away and does not bring you to the app to view the match. It acts only as a reminder for you to check your app for the results...

As Dave said, it should take you to the event screen and start an update to grab new event results. Does anyone else have the same problem as Navid?

Sorry for the lack of updates & new features recently. I've been busy getting ready for my team's competitions and with other higher priority projects. Hopefully I'll get something out for Championship, but no guarantees.

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Originally Posted by Dave Flowerday

upgraded to an Android device.

Interesting choice of words..

[Mike Soukup]

Originally Posted by George A.

Do you have any update about a possible iphone version coming out?

The 2011 iPhone version has been out for about 2 weeks, you can find it in the app store. Sorry it took so long, but we were working on other projects.

There will not be any more Android updates this year. We were busy turning FRC Spyder into VEX via in time for the VEX World Championship last weekend so there wasn't any spare time for FRC work. We'll have a new & improved version next year though. Until then, tell your friends to download the iPhone & Android versions and to register for score notifications.

[Rosiebotboss]

Mike,

I think I speak for the entire Android/FIRST community, "Thank you."

This app was a huge help in keeping track of teams, schedules, rankings and all the rest and it made my life at competitions a LOT easier. We owe you one. (You can define what "one" is, just keep cheap! lol)

[Basel A]

Agreed, this app is awesome! I'd preferred the FRC Tracker app before this season, but I've quickly gotten used to FRC Spyder as well. Neither is perfect, but here's a few suggestions that are on that side that I'd love to see on this side:
1) OPR and DPR rankings for an event
2) Selecting a team in the rankings sends you to their team page (instead of results at that event). More of a preference, because in both you can get to the other one with just a click.
3) Elim Result in team page (W, F, S, Q)

LOVE that there's RS in the rankings! Maybe an option to rank by RS (and OPR and DPR if you put those in?)

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Basel A

Agreed, this app is awesome! I'd preferred the FRC Tracker app before this season, but I've quickly gotten used to FRC Spyder as well. Neither is perfect, but here's a few suggestions that are on that side that I'd love to see on this side:
1) OPR and DPR rankings for an event
2) Selecting a team in the rankings sends you to their team page (instead of results at that event). More of a preference, because in both you can get to the other one with just a click.
3) Elim Result in team page (W, F, S, Q)

LOVE that there's RS in the rankings! Maybe an option to rank by RS (and OPR and DPR if you put those in?)

I agree with your second suggestion but I really like the simplicity of FRC Spyder. It's got the information you need in a clean format, without anything extraneous.

[Navid Shafa]

The division lists came out a while ago, when can we expect to see the team lists updated for each division?

(I keep updating daily, man I love this app )