Best Team Never To Win at Championships?

[JesseK]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

233 and 179 paired up in 2005, 2009, and 2011. They won all three times (their FIRST info page seems to have them losing in the finals in 2005, when they in fact won).

Pink won Florida without 179 in 2008. All of their non Florida victories (Colorado, Boston, Washington DC, Hawaii, New York, PNW) came without 179.

By that same logic, 1114 shouldn't be as highly accredited because they they keep winning with either 2056 or 1503.

Arguably, Pink only won Florida in 2009 because of 179/1649. Actually, I don't think even Pink would argue that point, it was simply an off year for them. Yes, Pink deserves more credit overall than was implied.

However, I was more trying to point out that a simple ranking based upon data points that aren't additively independent between alternatives is more "interesting" than it is conclusive. OPR addresses additive independence within a Regional. Yet it's unreliable when comparing robots between regional events, so I presume it's a stretch to try to normalize it year-to-year.

If anything, this thread is a great history lesson.