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Re: motorized robot carts

For all of the Queuing and Field crew members I've worked with in my almost 10 years volunteering I must say
PLEASE do not bring motorized and/or poorly-maneuverable carts to competition. They might look cool, but they slow down queuing-flow, load-on, and load-off immensely.
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Re: motorized robot carts

Ed and Sam-

I usually agree with you guys, but I can't on this issue.

While many of your concerns are valid, it doesn't mean its a guaranteed issue for every single team. I've seen plenty of carts that are a danger because of their size/maneuverability, etc that are nothing more than a modified handtruck. I'm not in favor of motorized carts necessarily, but I feel if you are going through the effort of designing an effective cart, you ARE spending time wisely.


If you are going motorized you can go through a drivetrain cycle thats outside the typical scope for FRC drives.

I guess my point is a motorized cart doesn't necessarily mean a big obstruction that will do nothing but get in the way.


As for the music issue on carts, I realize it tends to be very polarizing. For me, I'm totally for it and here's why: It's by far the most effective method of clearing a path through a crowd of people I've seen. People hear music and assume its just extra noise a team is creating. However, I find people and teams who walk through the pits screaming "ROBOT!" to be far more intrusive. Obviously there needs to be a certain level of maturity and respect level for other teams for a team who has music on their cart. Again, I feel its just a few bad apples that have ruined the perception for many.

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Re: motorized robot carts

Man, I never thought I'd have to cite a rule during the offseason.

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Originally Posted by 2011 Game Manual
4.3.2 Robot Carts
To protect team members from muscle strains and other injuries as they transport the robot between the pits and the competition area, we strongly recommend that team members use a cart. Please keep the following in mind:
  • Carts must remain in the team pit area when not in use for robot transportation;
  • All carts should fit through a standard 30-inch door;
  • Wheels on the cart must not damage site flooring; andFIRST
  • Do not add music or other sound devices to the cart.
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Re: motorized robot carts

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I think the point Brandon is making, and where I agree, is that if the rule didn't exist, having music on carts could actually be a benefit.
No it isn't
Going to the field and blasting your music to compete with the loud music already playing is annoying and if I must say so disrespectful.
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Re: motorized robot carts

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No it isn't
Going to the field and blasting your music to compete with the loud music already playing is annoying and if I must say so disrespectful.
Agreed. Like I said before, if you want to have music capability on your cart for in the pit purposes and separate demo events, then that's fine. But don't create unnecessary noise that no one wants to hear by the field.

As far as motorized carts: again, you're already walking next to it anyways. Just put some caster's on there and push the darn thing. That way it's safe and you can get out of the way of something quickly as opposed to accidentally running the cat into someone.

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Re: motorized robot carts

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No it isn't
Going to the field and blasting your music to compete with the loud music already playing is annoying and if I must say so disrespectful.
There's a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it. I'm sure everyone's familiar with the "wrong way". I however have seen teams be very respectful with their music and actually make for a more pleasant competition experience.

What's the difference though? It's against the rules...

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Re: motorized robot carts

When I was a Freshman someone on my team half jokingly said it would be cool to have a noise canceling system on a robot cart.

But back to the issue at hand, If a sound system is desired for demonstration purposes, It could be designed as part of a modular system. At competitions the sound system could simply be lifted out and replaced with a box to hold some basic tools, A battery holder, and/or an off-board compressor, just to name a few possible options. That way you won't have to push around the dead weight of a sound system that you can't even use at competitions, and you will have a place to put things that you might actually need.
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