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Re: IP Configuration for running multiple bots in LAB.

So the robot and drivers stations IP's are "hard coded" somewhere and can't be edited, (at least easily). Got it.

Not sure what the original "Blue" router is/was. On the bots we have the white 2011 Access points on both bots, and we are using 10.21.37.x for the logo motion and 10.21.38.x for the kicker bot.

So the thought was to have a wireless router, wan port to the school lan, enable dhcp, and let it handout ips above 10.21.37.100 for dhcp clients, now with subnet mask of 255.255.0.0 and the programming laptops can pull ip's via dhcp, program both bots, an still get to the internet to ask questions here.

I was just sure smart people with two or more bots have done this.
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Re: IP Configuration for running multiple bots in LAB.

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Not sure what the original "Blue" router is/was. On the bots we have the white 2011 Access points on both bots, and we are using 10.21.37.x for the logo motion and 10.21.38.x for the kicker bot.
The original "blue" router is a Linksys WRT610N Router that came in the 2009 KOP and was used during the 2009 and 2010 seasons are part of the driver station.

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So the thought was to have a wireless router, wan port to the school lan, enable dhcp, and let it handout ips above 10.21.37.100 for dhcp clients, now with subnet mask of 255.255.0.0 and the programming laptops can pull ip's via dhcp, program both bots, an still get to the internet to ask questions here.
Yes, this is doable. Like Alan said, you need two driver stations each with their proper sets of IPs. Actually, since you said that both of your robots have the 2011 dlink Access Point on them, why don't you just set them both to "AP Mode" and have them broadcast networks with different SSIDs (you change this as part of the radio configuration process). Then, you have each driverstation computer wirelessly connect to the network broadcast by the robot with the corresponding set of IPs and you won't have to worry about any network conflicts.
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Re: IP Configuration for running multiple bots in LAB.

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...why don't you just set them both to "AP Mode" and have them broadcast networks with different SSIDs...
This makes it inconvenient for a programmer who wants to be able to work on both robots for development. It's also not trivial to access the robot and other network resources simultaneously.

A wireless router with its WAN port on the school network sounds like a good idea. My suggestion would be to set up the router's DHCP server to give out addresses in the 10.0.100.x range, since that will never interfere with the robot address scheme. The trickiest part of this would be configuring all the robots and driver station computers to connect to the single SSID.
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So the thought was to have a wireless router, wan port to the school lan, enable dhcp, and let it handout ips above 10.21.37.100 for dhcp clients, now with subnet mask of 255.255.0.0 and the programming laptops can pull ip's via dhcp, program both bots, an still get to the internet to ask questions here.
That's how we do it.
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