[FTC]: Bowled Over game Poll

[team F.T.C 4240]

I agree, yesterday we used a 1:1 gear ratio and could hardly get the ball up the ramp, so gearing down is a good idea. Also the balls are very annoying because the like to go under the robot/wheels also I think "defense bots" will find cool ways to make the "offence bots" work for there points, like maybe pushing some of there crates/balls into a corner while your partner scores. Just some ideas I had.

[JesseK]

Defense: simply put your bowling ball in front of their ramp before the end game. If you can't push it up your own platform, it may be worth it to force them into a decision of risking a 40-pt penalty just to get up their ramp for whatever reason.

[team F.T.C 4240]

Originally Posted by JesseK

Defense: simply put your bowling ball in front of their ramp before the end game. If you can't push it up your own platform, it may be worth it to force them into a decision of risking a 40-pt penalty just to get up their ramp for whatever reason.

We thought of that too, but then we built the field...... and its 4 feet wide, so its very easy to get around it. One of my ideas was to take the ball to the top of the ramp, and go robot bowling!!!!!

[JesseK]

Originally Posted by team F.T.C 4240

... go robot bowling!!!!!

Oh no ><

[team F.T.C 4240]

Just an idea.

[normalmutant]

It could happen. However, since it's only 6 pounds and the slope is only 20degrees, it shouldn't hit any harder than a robot ramming at full speed. I don't know if the rookie bots will survive...

[JesseK]

Technically there isn't a rule against this yet, and it may be effective defense against a number of strategies:

You could pick up their bowling ball, and place it in one of their crates, or one of your crates. For those inclined to be particularly mean, the ball could be placed in a crate that's in/on an opposing alliance's robot. That'll teach 'em!

[alanlevezu]

I don't see a rule that says your bowling ball can't enter their protected area...

A "strike" at the right opportune time to their stack (within the protected area) is technically legal (so far)...

[team F.T.C 4240]

Originally Posted by JesseK

Technically there isn't a rule against this yet, and it may be effective defense against a number of strategies:

You could pick up their bowling ball, and place it in one of their crates, or one of your crates. For those inclined to be particularly mean, the ball could be placed in a crate that's in/on an opposing alliance's robot. That'll teach 'em!

Well there is a rule about not aiming to damage other robots, and even though its a good idea, they might call you for rolling a bowling ball down the ramp just to hit another robot. Here's the rule
2.4.5 <G8> In the FTC game Manual says "Strategies and mechanisms aimed solely at the destruction, damage, tipping over, or entanglement of Robots are not in the spirit of the FIRST Tech Challenge and are not allowed. However, Bowled Over! is a highly interactive contact game. Some tipping, entanglement, and damage may occur as a part of normal game play. If the tipping, entanglement, or damage is ruled to be deliberate, the offending team may be Disqualified for that Match. Repeated offenses could result in a team being Disqualified from the remainder of the competition."

[Andrew Schuetze]

Originally Posted by team F.T.C 4240

also I think "defense bots" will find cool ways to make the "offence bots" work for there points, like maybe pushing some of there crates/balls into a corner while your partner scores. Just some ideas I had.

So a defensive strategy disguised as offense would be to push all the racquetballs into your low goal on the floor...

[NHB836]

Originally Posted by team F.T.C 4240

I agree, yesterday we used a 1:1 gear ratio and could hardly get the ball up the ramp, so gearing down is a good idea. Also the balls are very annoying because the like to go under the robot/wheels also I think "defense bots" will find cool ways to make the "offence bots" work for there points, like maybe pushing some of there crates/balls into a corner while your partner scores. Just some ideas I had.

honestly i believe that instead of worrying about the bowling balls (except in autonomous) it would be better to make higher crate stacks in the endgame. if you add one crate to a 3 crate stack you already have that's 10 more points then the bowling ball could give you