Registration 2012

[SteveGPage]

I am curious to see what kind of impact there is to regionals around the same geographical area of the new MAR. Is there data about the impact the MI regionals had, initially, to ones near the MI Regionals? DC and Chesapeake, at least from what I recall last year, seem to be down somewhat. In the case of MI, regionals just outside of the state, did they experience a smaller number of teams, and if so, how long did it take for them to recover?

How do you gather this data? I would love to do some analysis on the data, as well.

Thanks!

Steve

[IndySam]

Originally Posted by SteveGPage

I am curious to see what kind of impact there is to regionals around the same geographical area of the new MAR. Is there data about the impact the MI regionals had, initially, to ones near the MI Regionals? DC and Chesapeake, at least from what I recall last year, seem to be down somewhat. In the case of MI, regionals just outside of the state, did they experience a smaller number of teams, and if so, how long did it take for them to recover?

How do you gather this data? I would love to do some analysis on the data, as well.

Thanks!

Steve

The Boilermaker regional experienced just the opposite. When the Michigan regionals were closed to non-Michigan teams that removed a great deal of choice for other teams in the Midwest.

Boilermaker went from 28 teams with lots of open spots to selling out early and waitlisting teams.

[dodar]

I cant wait to see how the 2nd round of regional picking will do to the South Florida Regional. We already have 2 northern teams going and I'm just curious to see if any others will get in seeing as most Florida teams going to orlando will try to sign up for it.

[Mark McLeod]

I'd have to look more closely, but DC filled faster last year (25 vs. 11), while MD filled half as slowly last year(13 vs. 21)- both of these are as of this point in the registration process. Reasons can vary from date changes to new team growth to MAR taking teams away or forcing outside teams away from the PA/NJ events, but it's probably easiest to just look at who attended the last two years and compare who hasn't registered or yet registered this season.
I can take a poke at that analysis later for both MAR and FiM, but I have a rookie team meeting today that I'm taking off the afternoon for.

Some of the data is directly available from FIRST, such as, current registration numbers and who attended each regional last year. I also have a spreadsheet with past attendance info. That can be used to figure out what teams MD & DC will lose this season.
That's from my FRC Statistics page, which also has other stuff for you to play with if you like.

Other data, like how many teams were registered on such-and-such a date in 2007, I only have, because I collected it at the time. FIRST doesn't keep daily/weekly records like that. That's also on the FRC Statistics site, but isn't all directly linked. There are too many variations that only I find useful. For instance, I've taken random snapshots of regional team counts throughout the registration process each year. You can get to last years record directly using: http://www.team358.org/files/frc_rec...ration2011.xls

Originally Posted by SteveGPage

I am curious to see what kind of impact there is to regionals around the same geographical area of the new MAR. Is there data about the impact the MI regionals had, initially, to ones near the MI Regionals? DC and Chesapeake, at least from what I recall last year, seem to be down somewhat. In the case of MI, regionals just outside of the state, did they experience a smaller number of teams, and if so, how long did it take for them to recover?

How do you gather this data? I would love to do some analysis on the data, as well.

[Phyrxes]

Something else to consider with MD/DC/VA is the weeks of the events. In glancing through sign ups a number of MD/DC/VA teams that have competed in two events in the past have signed up for a distant events or MD for weeks 1-3 and I suspect they will sign up for VA or DC for week 4 or 5 when permitted.

[RoboMom]

Yikes, they've been working hard in Quebec!

[Travis Hoffman]

Originally Posted by SteveGPage

I am curious to see what kind of impact there is to regionals around the same geographical area of the new MAR. Is there data about the impact the MI regionals had, initially, to ones near the MI Regionals?

No analysis, but I did use Mark's spreadsheet to tabulate the team counts for most of the regionals "near" Michigan. See the attachment. The transition from old school (2008) to Michigan districts (2009) is highlighted.

[Mark McLeod]

Originally Posted by Bills Blog

As of this morning 1428 teams are registered for the 2012 FRC Game

This morning there were roughly 1258 (+/- 6 based on when this morning) teams listed leaving ~170 +/- 6 waitlisted teams.
There are only 3 full Regional events this morning that will have waitlists, so Michigan or MAR might have some hidden teams. Where else could they be hidden on a waitlist?
MAR is quite open and we seem to be seeing every team, Michigan has released 101 slots and can currently accommodate 79 more. None of that accounts for 170 teams sitting around waiting for something to happen.

P.S.
Maybe he included pre-registered teams that hadn't picked an event yet (or got check marks for all the required pre-registration items).

[Mark McLeod]

Oregon and Boilermaker have reached their initial quotas and are now waitlisting.
Along with the MAR Rutgers district event.

Here's where event registration now stands at 9am.

• 40% of the available event slots have been taken - 1385 event slots spoken for.
• ~56% (estimated) of the teams we'll probably end up with this year are represented - 1320 teams registered.
• ~13% over this time last year (adjusted for last year's later MI & WA team list releases). Registration has set a brisk pace as you can see by the attached comparison chart with past years.

red means initial capacity has been reached (usually meaning there are 10 hidden reserved slots for waitlisters -rookies probably get priority).
Events that are close to initial capacity are labeled in green too.

54 ----- Autodesk Oregon Regional
42 ----- Oklahoma Regional
40 ----- Greater Kansas City Regional
40 ----- BAE Systems/Granite State Regional
39 ----- SBPLI Long Island Regional
37 ----- Los Angeles Regional
37 ----- Silicon Valley Regional (5 left)
35 ----- Midwest Regional (7 left)
33 ----- Orlando Regional
33 ----- Lake Superior Regional
33 ----- Boston Regional
32 ----- Festivale de Robotique FRC a Montreal Regional
32 ----- Rutgers M.A.R. FRC Qualifying Event
31 ----- San Diego Regional
30 ----- Boilermaker Regional
29 ----- Pittsburgh Regional
29 ----- West Michigan FiM FRC Qualifying Event (1 left)
29 ----- Lenape M.A.R. FRC Qualifying Event (1 left)
28 ----- Smoky Mountain Regional
28 ----- Finger Lakes Regional
28 ----- Mount Olive M.A.R. Qualifying Event (4 left)
27 ----- Virginia Regional
27 ----- Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional
27 ----- Hatboro-Horsham M.A.R. FRC Qualifying Event (3 left)
25 ----- Alamo Regional
25 ----- Seattle Cascade Regional
25 ----- Minnesota North Star Regional
24 ----- Northeast Utilities FIRST Connecticut Regional
22 ----- WPI Regional
22 ----- Peachtree Regional
21 ----- Chesapeake Regional
21 ----- Arizona Regional
20 ----- Kettering University FiM FRC Qualifying Event
20 ----- Chestnut Hill M.A.R. FRC Qualifying Event (6 left)
19 ----- Wisconsin Regional
18 ----- New York City Regional
18 ----- Colorado Regional
17 ----- North Carolina Regional
17 ----- Lone Star Regional
16 ----- Buckeye Regional
15 ----- Sacramento Regional
15 ----- Bayou Regional
14 ----- Seattle Olympic Regional
14 ----- South Florida Regional
13 ----- Utah Regional (capacity revised upwards)
13 ----- Palmetto Regional
13 ----- Greater Toronto West Regional
13 ----- Spokane Regional
13 ----- Traverse City FiM FRC Qualifying Event
12 ----- Washington DC Regional
11 ----- St. Louis Regional
11 ----- Queen City Regional
11 ----- Detroit FiM FRC Qualifying Event
11 ----- Troy FiM FRC Qualifying Event
10 ----- Livonia FiM FRC Qualifying Event
8 ------ Hawaii Regional
8 ------ Dallas West Regional
8 ------ Waterford FiM FRC Qualifying Event
7 ------ Waterloo Regional
7 ------ Northville FiM FRC Qualifying Event
6 ------ Dallas East Regional
6 ------ Las Vegas Regional
4 ------ Israel Regional
4 ------ Greater Toronto East Regional
4 ------ Central Valley Regional
4 ------ Niles FiM FRC Qualifying Event

[Mr. Van]

Does the Utah regional really have only 22 spaces open for initial registration?

(That's not enough teams for an 8-alliance elimination and at any given time, only three teams would be in the pits - all others would be in the queue, on deck or on the field!)

Did I miss something?

- Mr. Van
Coach, Robodox

[AcesPease]

Originally Posted by Mr. Van

Does the Utah regional really have only 22 spaces open for initial registration?

(That's not enough teams for an 8-alliance elimination and at any given time, only three teams would be in the pits - all others would be in the queue, on deck or on the field!)

Did I miss something?

- Mr. Van
Coach, Robodox

WPI is full at 22, but if the typical reserve is 10, then they really mean to allow 32.

[mwibbels]

Originally Posted by Mr. Van

Does the Utah regional really have only 22 spaces open for initial registration?

(That's not enough teams for an 8-alliance elimination and at any given time, only three teams would be in the pits - all others would be in the queue, on deck or on the field!)

Did I miss something?

- Mr. Van
Coach, Robodox

Utah was reset to 44 teams yesterday. Am looking forward to the new venue at the Maverick center (the location used for the hockey events at the Salt Lake Olympics)

[Mark McLeod]

• We've broken 100 registered rookies.
• 7 resurrected veteran teams (sat out 1 or 2 years)
• 1 new "vet" team (2093 from Portland, OR)

Originally Posted by AcesPease

WPI is full at 22, but if the typical reserve is 10, then they really mean to allow 32.

As a general rule FIRST HQ makes Regional Directors reserve at least 10 slots. A few venues play with their numbers a bit during registration (like Utah), and in a pinch many can squeeze in a few more teams by reducing and rearranging the pit footprints. For my own accounting I usually assume the highest # of previous year teams at the same venue or the stated capacity+10 as the upper limit.

I think WPI can actually take 36 teams elbow-to-elbow.
Can't wait for the new facility to open for 2013, then we won't have the low overhead pits to contend with.

[Madison]

We were told yesterday that there is only space for 2-3 more teams at Oregon. I registered for Seattle first because I hadn't realized there was so much growth in Oregon, so now we've got to find a new second home. Anyone interested in having Xbot come visit? :/

[dodar]

Originally Posted by Madison

We were told yesterday that there is only space for 2-3 more teams at Oregon. I registered for Seattle first because I hadn't realized there was so much growth in Oregon, so now we've got to find a new second home. Anyone interested in having Xbot come visit? :/

How bout Orlando, Florida? lol Orlando could use some more northern influence.