2012 Game?

[om23]

Well since we know that there will be Kinect involved...
the possibilities are endless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlgA2nlXUF8

[Walter Deitzler]

A sneak peek at the KOP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlgA2nlXUF8

I know someone earlier in this thread posted something about dancing robots, and I think that they might not be so far from the truth. The kinect could be used to take your dance moves, and get the robot the copy your actions, making a dancing game an actual possibility.I am not sure how it would be scored, but it would be fun (and interesting).

[Zuelu562]

Or it's another control option that FIRST is embracing. Last year there were multiple Q&A Questions regarding the Kinect Sensor and it's legality for a control system (to which, the answer was "No" due to the Lasers in the Kinect Sensor, IIRC).

I would start actively looking for hints after American Thanksgiving (have to differentiate, there are multiple holidays in the World called "Thanksgiving").

Now, to make sure that the head mentor doesn't steal the Kinect after the season ends if we actually use it. >.>

[Robert Cawthon]

Originally Posted by om23

Well since we know that there will be Kinect involved...
the possibilities are endless.

How about a moving target in autonomous? Maybe one that is stationary along the X-Y plane, but moves along the Z axis?

[plnyyanks]

Originally Posted by Robert Cawthon

How about a moving target in autonomous? Maybe one that is stationary along the X-Y plane, but moves along the Z axis?

Possible, but FIRST has stated that the Kinect will only be used for operating the robot (however they won't prohibit you from putting it on the robot)

Q: Can I put the Kinect on my robot to detect other robots or field elements?

While the focus for Kinect in 2012 is at the operator level, as described above, there are no plans to prohibit teams from implementing the Kinect sensor on the robot.

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/kinect

And it also looks like it will have some autonomous usages.

During the autonomous period team members will be able to provide some guidance to one (of the three on a team) robot by moving their bodies. Gestures of various types either from sample code that will be supplied or custom code developed by team members will be used to give direction and activity for a robot.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/alfredth/arc...the-robot.aspx

But you never know what someone will come up with....

[BlacksmithWoods]

FIRST has been hinting toward the fact that the Xbox Kinect will be in the KOP this year. I'm expecting tracking some targets, or huge involvement between the human player, driver, and the robot. If you want to check any of the stuff out, I'll provide the links.
Youtube -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlgA2nlXUF8
FIRST -- http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/kinect

Looking Forward to a great Build Season!

[pandamonium]

The blog post telling us that one of the three human players will operate it in autonomous mode actually tells us a lot about this years game. We can make inferences here that the other 2 human players will be distributing game pieces. Knowing that the games often involve symmetry we can start to limit what the lay out this year will be. I know this isn't a huge deal but it is a lot more than we knew about the game a month ago...

[Steven Donow]

Originally Posted by pandamonium

The blog post telling us that one of the three human players will operate it in autonomous mode actually tells us a lot about this years game. We can make inferences here that the other 2 human players will be distributing game pieces. Knowing that the games often involve symmetry we can start to limit what the lay out this year will be. I know this isn't a huge deal but it is a lot more than we knew about the game a month ago...

I'm not necessarily sure that's what it's implying. I think it's just a matter of the way it's worded that gives off the idea that only one robot gets operated in autonomous.

[527's_Spy]

with the kinect now as an element of gameplay, does anyone think it may have any relation with minibots (besides its main use for operating the robot as of right now) if they come back this year?

[Brandon Zalinsky]

Originally Posted by 527's_Spy

with the kinect now as an element of gameplay, does anyone think it may have any relation with minibots (besides its main use for operating the robot as of right now) if they come back this year?

I think it would be cool if the minibots had to track a moving target with the kinect... Though I am one of the few people that's against the general use of minibots in future competitions...

[Phyrxes]

Based on the 2011 rulebook wouldn't the use of a Kinnect require a rules change or at least an exception regarding robot sensors and lasers?

So far the most logical and practical use of the kinect is control via 1 human player during autonomous period, and the other 2 human players do something with game pieces. But then again, when has FIRST actually been logical and practical?

[rhf323]

Well if you take into the account that we are getting a smaller Crio and a Kinect this year I think that the robots will have to be smaller and since the kinect has a crap ton of sensors on it (does it use ultrasonic i am not sure) it will involve Robots tracking multiply robots at the same time ( the Kinect can track up to 1 million different "joints" or points) So i am thinkg a robot with a turret but knowing first there will be a twist that no one will think of.

[austin1743]

Since we know the kinect is going to be in the kop, does anyone have any experience in using the kinect? I know there are a lot of possibilities for this use of this sensor.

The only question I have about it is: Which programming language would be the ideal program the kinect in?

[Phyrxes]

I remember my software team saying that the Microsoft SDK for it was C Sharp, but I'm not sure what other options exist.