[EWCP] - 11-13-11 FIRST Supplier Cast

[Andrew Schreiber]

As was announced during last night's cast, the next EWCPCast will be about what it is like to be an FRC Supplier. We have arranged for none other than Andy Baker to be our special guest for this cast.

Once again we are asking for your input, what should we ask Andy? Obviously we will heckle him about next year's KoP, FIRST Choice, and the retirement of the CIM motors and the long awaited (if sometimes prematurely assumed) return of the Globe motors. What more do you want to hear?

The cast will be the usual time (9pm EST) at the usual place. Hope to see you there.

And, as always, if you have an idea for a cast or would like to help us in any way please contact us here via PM, at our Facebook page, or just put out free food and wait for us to come by (it won't take long).

Edit: Just for my own time saving/sanity if we could agree on a format for questions. Maybe put them in a code tag or something. Preferably keep them general and concise as well. Basically that way I can quickly compile the questions for this cast. Sorry to be so demanding.

[rsisk]

I would like to hear Andy discuss the process for developing a new product. How does it go from ideation to manufacture to distribution.

[Michael Blake]

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber

Once again we are asking for your input, what should we ask Andy? ...and the retirement of the CIM motors and the long awaited (if sometimes prematurely assumed) return of the Globe motors.

WAIT... retirement of CIM motors?! Did I miss something? Is there an announcement or intel on this?

WHAT are Globe motors and where can I find them?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Michael Blake

WHAT are Globe motors and where can I find them?

Globe motors are a handy little motor included in past KOPs. They were silver, with a black gearbox of the same diameter directly mounted to them. I remember using them in 2004, but do not remember them in the KOP after that; the BaneBots motors are a decent replacement (those came in around 2006, IIRC).

I don't remember what their normal use was, though. But, like I said, they were handy; they were slightly lighter-duty than a FP, but strong enough to be used effectively in a number of arm/claw applications. (330 in 2004: 2 Globes powered an arm to remove the doubler ball. We also had a van door motor in there--that's another one that people have wanted back--to enable sliding along the bar.)

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by Michael Blake

WAIT... retirement of CIM motors?! Did I miss something? Is there an announcement or intel on this?

WHAT are Globe motors and where can I find them?

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I'm just joking, we know nothing, but losing the CIM is something that is joked about yearly.

[thefro526]

Originally Posted by EricH

Globe motors are a handy little motor included in past KOPs. They were silver, with a black gearbox of the same diameter directly mounted to them. I remember using them in 2004, but do not remember them in the KOP after that; the BaneBots motors are a decent replacement (those came in around 2006, IIRC).

Globe motors disappeared from the KOP between 2009 and 2010 if I remember correctly. They were awesome little motors for things that needed finite control and already came with a transmission that gave them a reasonable output speed.

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber

I'm just joking, we know nothing, but losing the CIM is something that is joked about yearly.

Andrew, you are aware that the removal of the CIM from the KOP might cause the downfall of FRC? I've never encountered a motor as forgiving as a CIM - Stall them for 20 seconds, run them hot on a short turnaround, or call them mean names in between matches and they'll just keep doing their thing.

[jwfoss]

Originally Posted by rsisk

I would like to hear Andy discuss the process for developing a new product. How does it go from ideation to manufacture to distribution.

Along with this I'd be interested to know if, and how many people go to AndyMark with component ideas for them to sell.

Also interested to hear what might be coming in the near future. (Even if its just a hint, it would be cool to know what they are working on)

[Brandon Holley]

Just to help clear the air a bit, Globe is a brand that sells all different types of motors. "Oldschoolers" refer to them as "Globe motors" because they were the only Globe branded motor we got in the kit.

The Globe motor we got in the kit specifically was model # 409A587 (I believe thats correct).


Through my own research over the past couple years I've learned that those particular globe motors are no long produced. What was left of those motors was already distributed to suppliers.

If the Globes do come back, I'd expect a different version, albeit probably extremely similar, but still not EXACTLY the same.

-Brando

[Peter Matteson]

Originally Posted by Michael Blake

WHAT are Globe motors and where can I find them?

They were used to shift into 4WD on the transfer case of GM vehicles IIRC. They were one of the most robust motors we ever got in the kit but since their manufacture ceased about 4 years ago they don't make sense in the kit anymore.

I suggest teasing Andy about the "Thursday Robot Challenge" if the rules allow us to do it this year.

[Akash Rastogi]

A reminder to all about this cast on Sunday November 13th.

Examples:
where are most of AM parts manufactured
how large is the staff
how much inventory does AM keep
when does AM start production for build season
what does AM stock the most of



Post whatever comments questions and concerns you have for Andy Baker, co-founder of AndyMark.

Tune in on Sunday!

[Matthew Blake]

Originally Posted by Michael Blake

WAIT... retirement of CIM motors?! Did I miss something? Is there an announcement or intel on this?

WHAT are Globe motors and where can I find them?

You beat me to the question.

[rsisk]

How did AndyMark get started?

[Chris is me]

There is nothing to indicate a retirement of CIM motors.

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

There is nothing to indicate a retirement of CIM motors.

Indeed, the CIM is one of the best-sealed motors we've had in the kit. I might consider a window motor for use in the water game, but not as a first choice.

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

There is nothing to indicate a retirement of CIM motors.

Ugh... see folks, this is why I don't try to be funny.