[EWCP]-11-27-11 Drivetrain Design

[IKE]

I would love a brief discussion on NBDs. If for no other reason than to remind the new folks about the whitepaper out there.

Also, a drivetrain discussion probably should include a mention of "The Kit-Bot on Steriods". Simbots do such a great job with their resources, and a few really good teams in Michigan have apparently taken this to heart and have been doing quite well with the philosophy. With so many great COTS components available today, Custom is only better if your goal is to be custom, or you develop it into a "better" solution which is a lot of resource. If your goal is on field performance remember, Unicorns are best left for fables and tall tales. Thoroughbreds require a lot of work and excellent breeding to truly perform. Camels, Mules, and elephants have historically gotten the job done.

[Karthik]

Originally Posted by IKE

I would love a brief discussion on NBDs. If for no other reason than to remind the new folks about the whitepaper out there.

Also, a drivetrain discussion probably should include a mention of "The Kit-Bot on Steriods". Simbots do such a great job with their resources, and a few really good teams in Michigan have apparently taken this to heart and have been doing quite well with the philosophy. With so many great COTS components available today, Custom is only better if your goal is to be custom, or you develop it into a "better" solution which is a lot of resource. If your goal is on field performance remember, Unicorns are best left for fables and tall tales. Thoroughbreds require a lot of work and excellent breeding to truly perform. Camels, Mules, and elephants have historically gotten the job done.

Speaking of the Kitbot on Steroids and drivetrain design, we just released a new presentation on both:

http://www.simbotics.org/files/pdf/d...ain-design.pdf

Check it out. More goodies, including an updated video with detailed instructions on how to build the KoS are coming soon!

[Dr Theta]

Karthik you just made my day! New presentations to look through tonight .

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Karthik

Speaking of the Kitbot on Steroids and drivetrain design, we just released a new presentation on both:

http://www.simbotics.org/files/pdf/d...ain-design.pdf

Check it out. More goodies, including an updated video with detailed instructions on how to build the KoS are coming soon!

Wow, that's the most comprehensive presentation on drivetrain design I've ever seen. Kudos.

[Madison]

Originally Posted by Karthik

Speaking of the Kitbot on Steroids and drivetrain design, we just released a new presentation on both:

http://www.simbotics.org/files/pdf/d...ain-design.pdf

Check it out. More goodies, including an updated video with detailed instructions on how to build the KoS are coming soon!

This is a fantastic presentation, Karthik. How long does it take Ben to give it? I have been struggling to cover drive design in a 45 minute session and if y'all can give such a comprehensive look at it in that same time, I'm retiring.

Originally Posted by Karthik

Speaking of the Kitbot on Steroids and drivetrain design, we just released a new presentation on both:

http://www.simbotics.org/files/pdf/d...ain-design.pdf

Check it out. More goodies, including an updated video with detailed instructions on how to build the KoS are coming soon!

YAY!

[thefro526]

Originally Posted by Karthik

Speaking of the Kitbot on Steroids and drivetrain design, we just released a new presentation on both:

http://www.simbotics.org/files/pdf/d...ain-design.pdf

Check it out. More goodies, including an updated video with detailed instructions on how to build the KoS are coming soon!

Karthik,

Is there a way that you/we/everyone can make sure that every team sees this? I've come to the conclusion that the KoS is more competitive than about 85% of the drivetrains in FRC...

[rsisk]

Originally Posted by thefro526

Karthik,

Is there a way that you/we/everyone can make sure that every team sees this? I've come to the conclusion that the KoS is more competitive than about 85% of the drivetrains in FRC...

I just shared it with about 2,000 people on the FIRST Robotics LinkedIN group. Next stop, FIRST Senior Mentors...

[pfreivald]

Great presentation on drive trains, Karthik! I'm sharing it with our rookies right now.

[Karthik]

Originally Posted by Madison

This is a fantastic presentation, Karthik. How long does it take Ben to give it? I have been struggling to cover drive design in a 45 minute session and if y'all can give such a comprehensive look at it in that same time, I'm retiring.

Ben gave this presentation a couple weeks ago to a group of local Ontario teams. It took about 1:40 followed by twenty minutes of the 1114 kids assembling the KoS. Not all topics were covered in detail, doing so would probably make it a 2:30 presentation.

Originally Posted by thefro526

Karthik,

Is there a way that you/we/everyone can make sure that every team sees this? I've come to the conclusion that the KoS is more competitive than about 85% of the drivetrains in FRC...

We're working on ways to get these presentations out to a wider audience in easy to use formats. I'll have more details in the next couple of weeks. But like I said earlier, we'll have videos, step by step instructions, CAD models and a BOM.

[Ether]

Originally Posted by Karthik

Speaking of the Kitbot on Steroids and drivetrain design, we just released a new presentation on both:

http://www.simbotics.org/files/pdf/d...ain-design.pdf

Check it out.

There's a major "oops" on Page 47. The force required to move the rubber block is 50 lbs, not 1610 lbs.

[Ian Curtis]

Originally Posted by Ether

There's a major "oops" on Page 47. The force required to move the rubber block is 50 lbs, not 1610 lbs.

Slugs strike back!

I really really like that factor of merit chart. I hope that gets into as many hands as possible. Even if people don't agree with the numbers, it is a great way to frame any discussion.