[BB] The wooden beams have started creaking

[Jared Russell]

Originally Posted by Taylor

By counting the number of events in a given week.

Keep in mind that MAR and FiM build their own fields; this may not be accounted for in the quantities listed by Bill.

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by Jared341

Keep in mind that MAR and FiM build their own fields; this may not be accounted for in the quantities listed by Bill.

I thought that too, but then I looked at the list of events. I don't see enough simultaneous "conventional" regionals. The district competitions have to be included.

[Jared Russell]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

I thought that too, but then I looked at the list of events. I don't see enough simultaneous "conventional" regionals. The district competitions have to be included.

Right, but it still doesn't answer the question as to whether the quantities of materials listed by Bill should be divided by 19, by 15, or something else.

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by Jared341

Right, but it still doesn't answer the question as to whether the quantities of materials listed by Bill should be divided by 19, by 15, or something else.

Divide by 42... or 0... Ah crap that didn't help any, we still have too many choices.

Oh well, guess I'll know in January.

[1493kd]

Speaking of Manual sections, Section 4.2.2 covers robot carts. Please be sure to clearly label your robot cart with your team number. There is no defined way to do this, we just want to make sure field personnel can identify what cart belongs to which team so we can keep things flowing smoothly on the field.

This above statement seems like the biggest hint in the blog. Means that the field may be dangerous for student to enter/be part of and field crew will the the ones having to return robots. I am thinking some kind of elevated field elements.

[rachelholladay]

Originally Posted by 1493kd

Speaking of Manual sections, Section 4.2.2 covers robot carts. Please be sure to clearly label your robot cart with your team number. There is no defined way to do this, we just want to make sure field personnel can identify what cart belongs to which team so we can keep things flowing smoothly on the field.

This above statement seems like the biggest hint in the blog. Means that the field may be dangerous for student to enter/be part of and field crew will the the ones having to return robots. I am thinking some kind of elevated field elements.

Well for field reset in the past we have had the problem that people off load their robot to the field and then leave their cart in the middle of the queing zone. Most carts do not have any team markings so the volunteers are left to ask around to find out whose cart it is. That or we move it ourselves (often, it seems, to an area that the team is unhappy about even though it was them who didnt move their car tin the first place..but enough rant) I wouldn't be surprised if a volunteer suggested this rule as common practice and FIRST decided to adopt it.

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by rachelholladay

Well for field reset in the past we have had the problem that people off load their robot to the field and then leave their cart in the middle of the queing zone. Most carts do not have any team markings so the volunteers are left to ask around to find out whose cart it is. That or we move it ourselves (often, it seems, to an area that the team is unhappy about even though it was them who didnt move their car tin the first place..but enough rant) I wouldn't be surprised if a volunteer suggested this rule as common practice and FIRST decided to adopt it.

One time I kicked a left-behind cart under the drape covering the judges table. The team didn't know where their cart went.

[pandamonium]

The steel and Lexan got me thinking... which may be a bad thing... Something just didn't quite sit right with me about this hint and the heavy field. There is not a lot of space on the field for a large field element the largest we have had since 3 v 3 was probably the Rack. If we assume as it seems to be described that this is significantly heavier than the rack my new conclusion is that the large field element is not actually on the field. Now before you call me crazy here me out. What if there is a scaffolding structure above the driver station with stairs leading up to it from behind. Perhaps this is the isolation booth for the Kinect perhaps a way to spread out the human players. Of course their would be safety railings and what not perhaps it even over hangs or crosses a portion of the field... thoughts?

[Brandon Holley]

Originally Posted by pandamonium

The steel and Lexan got me thinking... which may be a bad thing... Something just didn't quite sit right with me about this hint and the heavy field. There is not a lot of space on the field for a large field element the largest we have had since 3 v 3 was probably the Rack. If we assume as it seems to be described that this is significantly heavier than the rack my new conclusion is that the large field element is not actually on the field. Now before you call me crazy here me out. What if there is a scaffolding structure above the driver station with stairs leading up to it from behind. Perhaps this is the isolation booth for the Kinect perhaps a way to spread out the human players. Of course their would be safety railings and what not perhaps it even over hangs or crosses a portion of the field... thoughts?

It seems unlikely to me that they would elevate humans around the playing field. Just the safety measures, insurance, handicap access that need to be taken care of seem too big to tackle.

-Brando

[CNettles11]

From what I'm thinking, this year's game will involve lifting robots. Possibly having two robots lift a third onto a platform? Only time will tell.

[BJT]

Watching TRON Legacy this evening, the multi-level lightcycle grid reminded me of this discussion.

[bhaidet]

Has anyone here been on a team to build field parts before? Have there been any other games in memory (other than the rack) that require steel? (or did that not even use it?) Something will be doing some serious lifting/supporting on the field. Robots being elevated is more likely than people I think, but maybe the structure is for a ground-level kinect booth? But then they would have used aluminum...

[EricH]

Originally Posted by bhaidet

Has anyone here been on a team to build field parts before? Have there been any other games in memory (other than the rack) that require steel? (or did that not even use it?)

Overpass and lane dividers in 2008... Minibot poles in 2011... Towers in 2010... Ramp sides in 2006 (diamond plate on the ramp side)... 2005's goals... 2004's bar... 2003's ramp supports (the ramps were copper mesh) and limbo bars... 2001's limbo bar... the center-field structure in 2000 was piping... and most of the games in the later 90's had steel pipe structures of various sorts (exception, 1999).

In addition to the field rails, some of which may need replacing due to hard impacts...

There are a lot more uses for steel on an FRC field than there are on an FRC robot.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

I thought that too, but then I looked at the list of events. I don't see enough simultaneous "conventional" regionals. The district competitions have to be included.

The Israel and Hawaii fields do not also travel to mainland events. Last year, FIRST kept one field in a warehouse in the middle of the country as a contingency. Also, the Einstein field is not used previously. So, there's 4 fields needed in addition to the most simultaneous regionals.

On the other hand, the 17 fields that they had last year included the two FIM fields.

[Peyton Yeung]

I think it is getting safe to say it isn't a water game. He mentions carpet tape.