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Ditto! I would love to watch a match like that!
One offseason robot vault coming right up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5nnGGRi-94&NR=1

237's slider mechanism is inside the black "mailbox". Oh! Forgot to mention: 190 was the only stationary robot in the 2004 bar blockers. The others all had a sliding mechanism.
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One offseason robot vault coming right up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5nnGGRi-94&NR=1

237's slider mechanism is inside the black "mailbox". Oh! Forgot to mention: 190 was the only stationary robot in the 2004 bar blockers. The others all had a sliding mechanism.
237 was brutal that year! Such a sick robot for the 04 game.
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237's slider mechanism is inside the black "mailbox". Oh! Forgot to mention: 190 was the only stationary robot in the 2004 bar blockers. The others all had a sliding mechanism.
Sorry Eric, but O'Sancheski beat you to it! Thanks anyways though! That was some amazing footage!
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Re: Best defensive strategies

My soccer coach always told me "The best defense is a good offense".

On that note, I'd like to say that 71's '02 bot was a great defensive robot, just because it could dominate the offensive side of the game.

As for strategies, offensive-defensive strategies could include scoring as many game pieces possible to ensure that the other alliance does not get any. This relates an iteration of the tube starvation this year, and a possible strategy in '09 (wasn't there back then, but it is probably a viable strategy).
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One of the most epic things I have ever seen in an frc match
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One of the most epic things I have ever seen in an frc match
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5nnGGRi-94
Wow, thanks, that's incredible!
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Re: Best defensive strategies

The best offensive robot in the world is going to have a hard time scoring if they can't acquire game pieces...
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Re: Best defensive strategies

Well, along the same lines as "the best defense is a good offense" 469's 2010 Breakaway robot comes to mind. We, as 2410, had the honor of assisting them in a Curie match and boy was the score in that match for us high. Their starvation cycle really caused a lot of elite teams fall prey to their strategy. It's amazing they did not win World Champions, but lost to 3 even more amazing teams off of points alone.
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469's 2010 Breakaway robot comes to mind.
Is that really a defensive robot, or an extraordinarily good offensive bot? I guess it can be considered both?
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Is that really a defensive robot, or an extraordinarily good offensive bot? I guess it can be considered both?
The best defense is a good offense, and the best offense is a good defense.

I think these two phrases represent 469 in 2010. I just love that design! Plus, if assisted correctly from alliances, it's possible to have all of the balls in your front zone, creating the perfect starvation tactic! I LOVE IT!
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237 was brutal that year! Such a sick robot for the 04 game.

That slider was TOUGH to get around. Here's one of my favorite pictures from 2004. It's our robot (team 11) hanging on the claw mechanism of 237. It didn't count as a hang because werent being fully supported by the bar, but the battle to even get in that position was epic.

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That slider was TOUGH to get around. Here's one of my favorite pictures from 2004. It's our robot (team 11) hanging on the claw mechanism of 237. It didn't count as a hang because werent being fully supported by the bar, but the battle to even get in that position was epic.

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That looks like it was before they added the mailbox. Made it a little easier to hang on them when they didn't have it on.

Oh, and it was only tough to get around them if you were slow getting onto the bar (AKA, not a bar blocker). 330 forced them to play defense on the ground in Archimedes on at least one occasion.
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