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Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint

I see a lot of people dividing up the quantities across the fields, and I thought that at first, except for the number of items that would have to be shared between the fields...I think we're looking at one field of supplies here...
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Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint

"At the moment we have an estimated 8,000lbs of polycarbonate sheets, four 1,000lb pallets of game specific steel elements, a pallet of aluminum, three 1,500lb pallets of a game specific item plus a fourth 1,000lb pallet of a different game specific item, two full pallets of gaffers tape, an entire pallet of carpet tape and multiple pallets of game pieces. None of which takes into account the existing field components we will be bolting, zip tying and otherwise attaching these items onto or the elements that have not been delivered yet." -from BB
just some food for thought...
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Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint

from that i just noticed there are two game specific field items that are similar but different. but there's approx. 4 times as many of the main item as the similar item...

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I see a lot of people dividing up the quantities across the fields, and I thought that at first, except for the number of items that would have to be shared between the fields...I think we're looking at one field of supplies here...
I think so too... There are parts with quantities of 2 or 3 on this list. Does that mean there are going to be ~250 of the IR sensors per field?
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I think so too... There are parts with quantities of 2 or 3 on this list. Does that mean there are going to be ~250 of the IR sensors per field?
this is the new materials in addition to the ones owned and stocked, so some are new for game reasons and some are for replacements...
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this is the new materials in addition to the ones owned and stocked, so some are new for game reasons and some are for replacements...
So that still means that this is a list of parts for one field, correct?
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So that still means that this is a list of parts for one field, correct?
some are for individual fields and some are for all fields and backups for if the ones on the field are broken
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So that still means that this is a list of parts for one field, correct?
most likely
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So that still means that this is a list of parts for one field, correct?
Thinking about it, This would mean this is all the parts. So now i think this is the complete order
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Thinking about it, This would mean this is all the parts. So now i think this is the complete order
it is "Rockwell Automation has again agreed to generously donate components we need for the 2012 FRC season." -From BB
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Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint

This also includes parts that come in the KOP as well.
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Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint

please note the 2500 signal lights we get every year, this is the total order not for just one field
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please note the 2500 signal lights we get every year, this is the total order not for just one field
Good Catch.

Looks like that's the only KOP Item on the list though, unless some of the items are rookie KOP only. (Currently have ~2300 teams registered, no other item comes close to that.)
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I see a lot of people dividing up the quantities across the fields, and I thought that at first, except for the number of items that would have to be shared between the fields...I think we're looking at one field of supplies here...
I think there are three possibilities as to what its a list of:
The list of new parts that RA is giving to FIRST this year
The BOM for all the fields put together
The BOM for one field.

I personally think that it is the list of items per field because the 6 DC power supplies and the 6 Ethernet/IP armor blocks, are things that I think I have seen inside of the scoring IOs / SCCs (particularly the Ethernet/IP armor blocks). Last year there were three of those Ethernet/IP armor blocks per alliance (one for team lights & stop buttons on the SCC, and one per scoring IO, of which there were two per side).
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I think there are three possibilities as to what its a list of:
The list of new parts that RA is giving to FIRST this year
The BOM for all the fields put together
The BOM for one field.

I personally think that it is the list of items per field because the 6 DC power supplies and the 6 Ethernet/IP armor blocks, are things that I think I have seen inside of the scoring IOs / SCCs (particularly the Ethernet/IP armor blocks). Last year there were three of those Ethernet/IP armor blocks per alliance (one for team lights & stop buttons on the SCC, and one per scoring IO, of which there were two per side).
My impression is that this is the total list of parts that Rockwell is donating to FIRST this year. It includes KoP items, as others have pointed out. It includes game-specific field elements, like the sensors others have discussed. And it includes items for the new fields FIRST is building (per Bill's Blog, there are two new fields this year, bringing the total to 19) - those new fields will require all new electronics, like the DC power supplies and Ethernet Blocks you've pointed out.
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