Go to Post I love this man. - Justin Montois [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > ChiefDelphi.com Website > Extra Discussion
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 09-12-2011, 15:12
Jamie Kalb Jamie Kalb is offline
Registered User
no team
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Mountain View, C.A.
Posts: 272
Jamie Kalb is a name known to allJamie Kalb is a name known to allJamie Kalb is a name known to allJamie Kalb is a name known to allJamie Kalb is a name known to allJamie Kalb is a name known to all
Re: pic: Team 1983 Fall CAD Project

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi View Post
It keeps the gearbox footprint out of the bellypan. Might be easier to work with things on there, but could also interfere with maintenance on the drive wheel below the gearbox.
Hmmm... sounds like one of those "engineering tradeoff" things! I'm just wondering about the effect on the COG.

Also, the easy-to-access main breaker is major plus.
__________________
Team 3129 Green MacHHHHine Founder, Captain (2009-10), Alumnus, and Mentor (2011-14)

2011-13 VEX World Championship...
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 09-12-2011, 15:42
Ninja_Bait's Avatar
Ninja_Bait Ninja_Bait is offline
Former Prez of Making Things Go
AKA: Jake Potter
FRC #0694 (StuyPulse)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: New York
Posts: 650
Ninja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: Team 1983 Fall CAD Project

The follower wheels are nice, but you could probably have mounted it upside-down so there's a little less metal under the belly and give yourself a little more clearance.

I always think that if you're going to build a robot in CAD you should at least figure out the correct center distance for a chain run, so I'm not a huge fan of tensioners. Just remember that the sliding one will probably slide, and often inopportunely.

Those are my only qualms, and it's really just an opinion thing anyway. Otherwise, it looks pretty solid and well thought-out. Very nicely done!
__________________
You can't fix something that isn't broken... but you can always break things that aren't fixed!

Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 09-12-2011, 15:54
Justin Montois's Avatar
Justin Montois Justin Montois is offline
FirstUpdatesNow.com
FRC #3015 (Ranger Robotics)
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 1,347
Justin Montois has a reputation beyond reputeJustin Montois has a reputation beyond reputeJustin Montois has a reputation beyond reputeJustin Montois has a reputation beyond reputeJustin Montois has a reputation beyond reputeJustin Montois has a reputation beyond reputeJustin Montois has a reputation beyond reputeJustin Montois has a reputation beyond reputeJustin Montois has a reputation beyond reputeJustin Montois has a reputation beyond reputeJustin Montois has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Justin Montois
Re: pic: Team 1983 Fall CAD Project

Looks awesome. Great Job.
__________________
@jmontois340

Team 3015
2016- World Championship Finalists and Tesla Division Champions with 2056, 1690 and 1405
2016- Greater Pittsburgh Regional Chairman's Award
2016- Pittsburgh Regional Finalists with 1023 and 4050
2015- Newton Division Finalists With 195 and 1756
2015- Finger Lakes Regional Champions with 4039 and 378
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-12-2011, 10:52
Chris is me's Avatar
Chris is me Chris is me is offline
no bag, vex only, final destination
AKA: Pinecone
FRC #0228 (GUS Robotics); FRC #2170 (Titanium Tomahawks)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Glastonbury, CT
Posts: 7,720
Chris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Chris is me
Re: pic: Team 1983 Fall CAD Project

You'll definitely want to spring load those follower wheels for accurate tracking. Other than that, looks like you've put quite a lot of thought into this design!
__________________
Mentor / Drive Coach: 228 (2016-?)
...2016 Waterbury SFs (with 3314, 3719), RIDE #2 Seed / Winners (with 1058, 6153), Carver QFs (with 503, 359, 4607)
Mentor / Consultant Person: 2170 (2017-?)
---
College Mentor: 2791 (2010-2015)
...2015 TVR Motorola Quality, FLR GM Industrial Design
...2014 FLR Motorola Quality / SFs (with 341, 4930)
...2013 BAE Motorola Quality, WPI Regional #1 Seed / Delphi Excellence in Engineering / Finalists (with 20, 3182)
...2012 BAE Imagery / Finalists (with 1519, 885), CT Xerox Creativity / SFs (with 2168, 118)
Student: 1714 (2009) - 2009 Minnesota 10,000 Lakes Regional Winners (with 2826, 2470)
2791 Build Season Photo Gallery - Look here for mechanism photos My Robotics Blog (Updated April 11 2014)
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-12-2011, 11:43
akoscielski3's Avatar
akoscielski3 akoscielski3 is offline
Mentor (1114), Alumni (772)
AKA: Aaron Koscielski
FRC #1114 (Simbotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: LaSalle, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,066
akoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond reputeakoscielski3 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: Team 1983 Fall CAD Project

Sorry i'm asking this but what is the point of Follower wheels. What do the improve and how? I've never seen them before so i'm just wondering

I just finished my 7th Chassis in CAD (this year), im gonna put up the one that we are currently building for a prototype and the one I like the most in a different thread soon.
__________________
Hall of Fame Team 1114 Simbotics
2013-Present
Host of Simbot Solidworks Series
Team 772 Sabre Bytes
2010-2013

Dean's List Finalist 2013 Waterloo Regional
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-12-2011, 12:13
Unsung FIRST Hero Woodie Flowers Award
Chris Fultz Chris Fultz is offline
My Other Car is a 500 HP Turbine
FRC #0234 (Cyber Blue)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Rookie Year: 1942
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 2,837
Chris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: Team 1983 Fall CAD Project

A follower wheel can have an encoder type of device connected to it to track distance traveled. Since it only rotates if the robot is actually moving, any wheel slip does not corrupt the distance measurement.

These were valuable in a game like the Rigolith game, where there was significant wheel spinning.
__________________
Chris Fultz
Cyber Blue - Team 234
2016 IRI Planning Committee
2016 IndyRAGE Planning Committee
2010 - Woodie Flowers Award - Championship
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-12-2011, 12:18
Ninja_Bait's Avatar
Ninja_Bait Ninja_Bait is offline
Former Prez of Making Things Go
AKA: Jake Potter
FRC #0694 (StuyPulse)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: New York
Posts: 650
Ninja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond reputeNinja_Bait has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: Team 1983 Fall CAD Project

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Fultz View Post
A follower wheel can have an encoder type of device connected to it to track distance traveled. Since it only rotates if the robot is actually moving, any wheel slip does not corrupt the distance measurement.

These were valuable in a game like the Rigolith game, where there was significant wheel spinning.
I imagine it is also very useful for mecanum, where it can be hard to predict exactly how the robot will move based on encoder values coming directly from the wheels, especially when strafing at odd angles.
__________________
You can't fix something that isn't broken... but you can always break things that aren't fixed!

Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-12-2011, 14:08
O'Sancheski O'Sancheski is offline
Registered User
no team
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 675
O'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: Team 1983 Fall CAD Project

Are those 4in AM Plaction wheels you are using or custom?

If they are the Plactions, did you make them or download them? Because I cannot find where to download. If someone can tell me where they are located I would be very appreciative.
Reply With Quote
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-12-2011, 15:07
thefro526's Avatar
thefro526 thefro526 is offline
Mentor for Hire.
AKA: Dustin Benedict
no team (EWCP, MAR, FRC 708)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 2,599
thefro526 has a reputation beyond reputethefro526 has a reputation beyond reputethefro526 has a reputation beyond reputethefro526 has a reputation beyond reputethefro526 has a reputation beyond reputethefro526 has a reputation beyond reputethefro526 has a reputation beyond reputethefro526 has a reputation beyond reputethefro526 has a reputation beyond reputethefro526 has a reputation beyond reputethefro526 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to thefro526 Send a message via MSN to thefro526
Re: pic: Team 1983 Fall CAD Project

Quote:
Originally Posted by O'Sancheski View Post
Are those 4in AM Plaction wheels you are using or custom?

If they are the Plactions, did you make them or download them? Because I cannot find where to download. If someone can tell me where they are located I would be very appreciative.
http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0198.htm

Click the 'Files and Documents tab'.
__________________
-Dustin Benedict
2005-2012 - Student & Mentor FRC 816
2012-2014 - Technical Mentor, 2014 Drive Coach FRC 341
Current - Mentor FRC 2729, FRC 708
Reply With Quote
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-12-2011, 15:38
O'Sancheski O'Sancheski is offline
Registered User
no team
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 675
O'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond reputeO'Sancheski has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: Team 1983 Fall CAD Project

Quote:
Originally Posted by thefro526 View Post
http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0198.htm

Click the 'Files and Documents tab'.
Thanks,

For some reason that tab wasn't loading on my computer. (Tried on another and works.)
Reply With Quote
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-12-2011, 17:14
JamesCH95's Avatar
JamesCH95 JamesCH95 is offline
Hardcore Dork
AKA: JCH
FRC #0095 (The Grasshoppers)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Enfield, NH
Posts: 1,853
JamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: Team 1983 Fall CAD Project

The CAD looks nice, the only comment I have is that you seemed to have placed a lot of mass near the outside of the frame (motors and battery). Having that inertia out there will slow down your robot's turning speed. Maybe it's a problem, maybe it's not, just something to keep in mind.
__________________
Theory is a nice place, I'd like to go there one day, I hear everything works there.

Maturity is knowing you were an idiot, common sense is trying to not be an idiot, wisdom is knowing that you will still be an idiot.
Reply With Quote
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-12-2011, 14:39
Tristan Lall's Avatar
Tristan Lall Tristan Lall is offline
Registered User
FRC #0188 (Woburn Robotics)
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Rookie Year: 1999
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 2,484
Tristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: Team 1983 Fall CAD Project

Great work on the CAD; you've obviously put effort into realism and detail.

There are few minor details you might want to address:
  1. A few components resting on the bottom plate don't seem to have adequate mounting tabs (the Victors do; the Spikes don't).
  2. Add bigger radii whenever possible, to decrease stress concentration (there's a tradeoff to be made regarding weight). A few of the lightening holes are unnecessarily sharply cornered. (Also there are a couple vestigial lightening holes, e.g. in the near corner in the photo; get rid of them.)
  3. Those bumper mounts are convenient, but very carefully scrutinize the 2012 rules, because your design would have been legal some years, and illegal in others. (Presuming that you recess the bumper backing into the frame rails, and depending on whether you add furring strips or rest it on the protruding bolt heads.)
  4. The tall vertical chain-tensioning slots look like they may be a weak point, depending on how well you can clamp the frame rails together with the tensioners, and how much the chassis flexes overall. They interrupt the web, weakening it. Instead, consider a small vertical slot, only where you need it.
Reply With Quote
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 12-01-2012, 22:58
Nikkocharger's Avatar
Nikkocharger Nikkocharger is offline
The R/C'er
AKA: Dontae
FRC #3398 (Crushing Crusaders)
Team Role: Mechanical
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Rookie Year: 2012
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 50
Nikkocharger will become famous soon enoughNikkocharger will become famous soon enough
Re: pic: Team 1983 Fall CAD Project

Just saying. That frame is very low to the ground Will it get high centered while trying to get on the ramp? Also can it even cross the center railing? But anyway that looks like a very durable chassis
__________________
Suddenly, a wild prototype appears!

Last edited by Nikkocharger : 12-01-2012 at 23:01.
Reply With Quote
  #14   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 13-01-2012, 08:36
ThaineP
 
Posts: n/a
Re: pic: Team 1983 Fall CAD Project

Duuuuuuude....shiiiiiny.....

Nice design, by the way.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 23:44.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi