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Unread 13-12-2011, 16:05
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Re: Driven Station options?

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Lets say the team has the appropriate version of the driver station installed on the OI PC and is using it to pass joystick inputs to the robot. All standard stuff and legal so far...

In addition, the OI PC has a custom app running that is receiving usb input from a button sensor on an arduino board.
Is that alone legal for 2011?
I don't see anything that would make it illegal.

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Furthermore - the custom app, upon receiving input over usb, sends a tcp packet to the robot to perform an action.
still legal for 2011?"
As long as it sends it over the competition network, I see no reason it wouldn't be.
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FRC 2011 LabVIEW 8.6 License serial number

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Yes I installed from that dvd . Perhaps I was given the incorrect serial # . from what I remember is started with L3
Page 4 of Getting Started with the 2011 FRC Control System

You should be able to just enter the LabVIEW serial number at the popup telling you LabVIEW has expired.

Or find and launch the NI License Manager.
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Re: Driven Station options?

Team 1073 wrote our own Dashboard that used a USB-connected touchscreen display to set the initial position of the robot. It used a UDP port to send the data. It was perfectly legal. Last month, we did a quick demo of controlling our elevator and claw using a Kinect, and by-passed the Kinect server. That code also sent commands directly to the robot. I discussed our architecture with Kevin, so I'm assuming it was all legal.

The whole safety is issue is managed by code in the DriverStation, Field Management Software (FMS), and FIRST code on the robot. Together, they kill motors if you hit e-stop, and officials can disable you via FMS.

The dashboard is just a regular Windows app and gets data to our code in the robot. No matter what our code on the robot tries to do, it can't override a stopped state. For example, telling the Jaguar to move the motor doesn't have any effect if the robot has been stopped, or, for that matter, prior to being enabled.

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Re: Driven Station options?

BTW, I believe the rules quoted mean something like an iPhone talking directly to the robot over WiFi is not permitted. Nor could the iPhone communicate wirelessly to the laptop.

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Re: FRC 2011 LabVIEW 8.6 License serial number

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Page 4 of Getting Started with the 2011 FRC Control System

You should be able to just enter the LabVIEW serial number at the popup telling you LabVIEW has expired.

Or find and launch the NI License Manager.
Thanks. That did the trick.
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