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Do you also think it wise to break the law? Ponder that for a while, let me know what you come up with. |
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And it's not like the encrypted manual is a secret or anything - it's announced on Bill's blog. |
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Is the proposed re-hosting fair use? The only way to know for sure is to sue, and have the court balance the merits of several factors. Equity and case law are inherently part of the process outlined in the statute, and they introduce uncertainty (and provoke debate among legal professionals). And just to be clear, there are different grades of "illegal". Most copyright infringement is a civil matter, where the state won't get involved—only the copyright holder has standing to sue. Only some (usually egregious) cases are a criminal matter. Either way, it's probably a bad idea to tempt legal proceedings unless you're justifiably confident that you have a defence (like fair use). Last edited by Tristan Lall : 03-01-2012 at 18:44. Reason: Moving reply to Andrew to a new post. |
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Tristan, so because you won't get caught or there may be no consequences, that makes it OK?
Fair use covers excerpts of material, not the whole thing. That's why it's OK for us to quote a rule from the manual when answering a question here on CD. |
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I'd say the TechnoKats have a strong fair use defence. Furthermore, I'd say FIRST will never sue them over it, so it will never be resolved officially (unless the law changes). |
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). As such I hope to make it easier for other teams to acquire the manual and begin their build season. Also, others have also posted that they will be breaking the law. Maybe you should ask them their feelings on breaking the law also. |
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The big question is whether it's right—and that's not the question that the law tries to answer directly. Instead, the law proposes a series of requirements that—given certain assumptions—balance the private and social costs and benefits. It then tries to come to a compromise that can be understood and enforced. It's fundamentally different from the FIRST rules mindset, because there isn't even the remotest attempt to cover every scenario with a definitive answer as to what's right. Instead, the law intentionally defers to the courts to sort out tough cases. (It's much easier to be definitive when the scope is narrow, you update the rules every year, and you don't have a thousand years of common law precedent to consider.) Furthermore, copyright law has evolved to rely upon the lack of economic benefit in pursuing de minimis infringement as a way limiting the number of infringement suits in a way that is acceptable to the public. In effect, if every possible infringement were prosecuted fully, we'd make tortfeasors of us all—and I suspect we'd be much less willing to allow a monopoly on the rights to creative works under those circumstances. Copyright as we know it would not be sustainable in that scenario. More to the point, society supports this limiting effect because it does not view every infringement as wrong, even though they are inherently illegal. Fair use is an affirmative defence: you employ it when you're accused of infringement. (In other words, you've been caught, and consequence #1 is that you're on trial.) In effect, by claiming fair use, you're articulating why some alleged infringements are not wrong, and are instead justified by their benefits to society. Strip away all the legalese, and that's what you've got: a belief that something is OK because it's better for society than an alternative. If your belief is correct, then that makes it right.1 If your belief is incorrect (particularly in the eyes of the judge)...prepare for more consequences. Quote:
1 That's not to say it's necessarily optimal; just better than the alternative. |
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The encrypted manual was just released. You can get it here:
http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...cuments?id=452 |
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Oddly enough, it is illegal to make an improper fair use claim, something you can't know if you did until you've made it.
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Yep, that's a better alternative than fighting the traffic on the FIRST servers (or even the CD servers, or mirror servers) to get the Manual, when that traffic has been known to shut down FIRST for 2 days and slow down CD for one. It's 100% legal, it's MY fault if I don't update it (and I know this), and I'm sure it's the right one. |
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I don't believe there's any such penalty in litigation (where fair use is usually raised). You're free (legally, maybe not ethically) to offer a false defence, as long as you don't suborn/commit perjury. |
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Anybody have access to a super computer? My quad core laptop will take more than a year to brute force the PDF open. Haha
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How many cores did you say you have? (There's no practical brute force attack on the encrypted manual. It would be much easier to hijack a helicopter, land on top of FIRST HQ, cut a hole in the ceiling, steal all of their computers, and decrypt those.) |
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