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Re: Coopertition award hint?

Seriously? We could divide up the labor, if we assign each person the volume and mass for a game element, then someone for the pallet volume and weight of the pallet, we could finally do some formula mashing to find out the most plausible game element. Any suggestions for game objects?
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I'm more of a Next Gen fan....
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I'm more of a Next Gen fan....
I'm saying old is better than new. Next gen is included in that.
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I'm saying old is better than new. Next gen is included in that.
Getting off topic now...though, it is a speculation/possible hint thread, I guess there never is any real topic to these.

Dean is probably watching us from his cozy mansion in Manchester, laughing at our insanity, and at how much we manipulate and over-analyze the simplest, unimportant things into such a big discussion.
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Re: Coopertition award hint?

What about a racquet ball game?

this utilizes the kinect hence a racquet and hit the ball allowing user input... it can used tennis balls which are small...
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Getting off topic now...though, it is a speculation/possible hint thread, I guess there never is any real topic to these.

Dean is probably watching us from his cozy mansion in Manchester, laughing at our insanity, and at how much we manipulate and over-analyze the simplest, unimportant things into such a big discussion.
He may also be thinking to himself: "Fools, Star Trek DS9 was the best." (Though I am a TNG fan)
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Don't forget staring at the full game field in his helicopter hanger.
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Re: Coopertition award hint?

back to the topic at hand, who's willing to help overanalyze the pallets' weights and volume to attempt to discover the playable game element?
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Re: Coopertition award hint?

I'm curious how they are actually defining "Qualification Score." If they define it based on the ranking system last year, that would mean that you would be in a better position if your opponent didn't score as well and your scores are traded. Alternately, it could be defined as raw score, which would make it better for teams that score less. Or it could be an interesting equation like they did in 2010, if I remember correctly, where it was something along the lines of as a winner you get twice the losing alliances score, and the losing alliance gets the their score without a multiplier plus the winning alliances' score (I don't remember, it was something interesting). If we were to judge this on teams who have equivalent coopertition scores, aka teams that fared the same in terms of coopertition, then the first way would favor the high scoring team, the second way would actually favor a low scoring team, and the third way would have to depend on what kind of crazy equation they can come up with. I think they would favor a mid scoring team if multiple teams got the same coopertition score, so I'm curious if they've come up with some crazy equation for the Qualification Score. Gosh, now I'm even more excited for Kick-Off


Just some food for thought. I'm bubbling over now to read those rules, I can't wait for Saturday


edit: whoops, math mistake, got rid of that silly paragraph
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Don't forget staring at the full game field in his helicopter hanger.
And let the helicopter remain exposed to the elements? I think not. That was likely a temporary set-up which was removed after the video was filmed.
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On a second note, the equation they put in is "2 x CoS - QuS." Using PEMDAS, that should read "2 x (QS - CS)," but that would make the multiplier unnecessary, so I wonder if it should actually read "(2 x CoS) -QuS," which could actually make sense if they don't want the Qualification score to have the same weight as the Coopertition score.
Um, M comes before S...


It is (2 x CoS) - QuS
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And let the helicopter remain exposed to the elements? I think not. That was likely a temporary set-up which was removed after the video was filmed.
Very true! Unless he has a second hangar where he moved it to. O.O
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On a second note, the equation they put in is "2 x CoS - QuS." Using PEMDAS, that should read "2 x (QS - CS)," but that would make the multiplier unnecessary, so I wonder if it should actually read "(2 x CoS) -QuS," which could actually make sense if they don't want the Qualification score to have the same weight as the Coopertition score.

Just some food for thought. I'm bubbling over now to read those rules, I can't wait for Saturday
Using PEMDAS, doesn't 2 x CoS - QuS = (2 x Cos) - Qus? It doesn't matter if the parentheses are there or not, the multiplication would occur before the subtraction.
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Nets around the field? That could be heavy as well.

The one final piece of the puzzle we haven't been factoring in is the Kinect. Allowing human control with it should help accuracy, so a game that requires accuracy, based on golf, with a different gamepiece could be interesting. We also haven't had a 'hording' (ie 2009, 2006) year recently, so lots of small balls are probable.
I can almost guarantee that the kinect will not be used to control the robot. It would just be clunky, awkward, and unsafe. Its most likely going to be used as a camera with depth perception ON the robot.

Just throwing that out there.
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