Questions on the arena

[koo_04]

In the rules, it states that the apposing team can not enter the 'key'. In the diagrams of the arena, it says the size of the what it says the 'key' is. Which is 101in wide and 48in deep. Also says that the edge is 144in from the alliance station. My team is confused on wether it is that entire area or just the solid semi-circle area.

We where also wondering on what the other two human players are aloud to do. Pick balls out of the corral, put balls through the inbound station, all of the above? We only know that the kinect players can move to the start line area.

Please help!! Thanks a ton.

[brndn]

The lines extending from the key to the alliance wall are for decoration. The shaded key is the only section with significance.

For the human players, I think retrieve balls from the corral and send balls through the inbound station are basically all there is to do, aside from look good.

[Grim Tuesday]

Originally Posted by brndn

The lines extending from the key to the alliance wall are for decoration. The shaded key is the only section with significance.

For the human players, I think retrieve balls from the corral and send balls through the inbound station are basically all there is to do, aside from look good.

Or more precisely, not send balls back and horde them.

[brndn]

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday

Or more precisely, not send balls back and horde them.

<G31> ...each Inbounder may hold a maximum of two Basketballs. During Teleop, Inbounders must remove Basketballs from the Corral immediately upon arrival. All Basketballs in the Alliance Station must be held by Inbounders once removed from the Corral.

I suppose you could drop them through the inbound slot and keep the alley well guarded.

[Steve Howland]

Originally Posted by brndn

I suppose you could drop them through the inbound slot and keep the alley well guarded.

Check out the Field Tour videos if you haven't already. Looks like you could possibly bounce them through the slot to the other side, as long as nothing is in the way.

[koo_04]

So, we can have three human players on each alliance? We are now arguing what the other two human players are doing. It is either, stand there and be pretty and have one putting into play or all 3 grab balls to put back into play, which then you would have up to 6 balls on each alliance side.

[koo_04]

Originally Posted by Steve Howland

Check out the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaFiCbZLPRY&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL videos if you haven't already. Looks like you could possibly bounce them through the slot to the other side, as long as nothing is in the way.

That link doesn't seem to work for me, anyone else?

[brndn]

Originally Posted by koo_04

That link doesn't seem to work for me, anyone else?

Check here for a full list:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=99433

[Steve Howland]

Originally Posted by koo_04

That link doesn't seem to work for me, anyone else?

Sorry, fixed now!

[koo_04]

Originally Posted by Steve Howland

Sorry, fixed now!

Thanks a ton, very useful. Although, even they question how many can be holding.

[koo_04]

Anyone have any idea of how many of the human players from each team can be holding basketballs and using them? We would really like to know so we get our strategy down.

[slijin]

Originally Posted by koo_04

Anyone have any idea of how many of the human players from each team can be holding basketballs and using them? We would really like to know so we get our strategy down.

In lieu of any GDC decisions, each inbounder can hold 2 basketballs indefinitely at any given time. Of course, don't forget to consider the other rules in 3.1.6.

[Steven Donow]

Originally Posted by koo_04

Anyone have any idea of how many of the human players from each team can be holding basketballs and using them? We would really like to know so we get our strategy down.

Per rule <G31>

[G31]
Only Inbounders may contact Basketballs; each Inbounder may hold a maximum of two Basketballs. During Teleop, Inbounders must remove Basketballs from the Corral immediately upon arrival. All Basketballs in the Alliance Station must be held by Inbounders once removed from the Corral.
Violation: Foul

Emphasis mine, this means that your one Inbounder for each team can hold two Basketballs, meaning that 6 Basketballs can be held by the three Human players/Inbounders from the three teams in the alliance at each time.

[DonRotolo]

Originally Posted by stevend1994

this means that your one Inbounder for each team can hold two Basketballs, meaning that 6 Basketballs can be held by the three Human players/Inbounders from the three teams in the alliance at each time.

And, if another ball comes into the corral, an inbounder had better get rid of one ball immediately, since removing the ball from the corral must also be done immediately.

There are some logistical issues here, since the inbounder closest to the slot is the logical choice to drop a ball through the slot, while the inbounder closest tot he corral is the logical choice to pick up the ball from the corral immediately...

[Bjenks548]

Everyone could just pass one ball to the right. The in-bounder on the far right puts one of his/her balls into play. I'm very curious as to what the "Immediately" means exactly. Is it up to the refs? Is there a set time? Either way, hording 6 balls could be a dangerous strategy...