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Re: pic: Well Now What?

My guess is they will either open the hole or give you a tool like they did in 2009 and 2010 to grab dislodged balls.
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Re: pic: Well Now What?

My guess is the field was incorrectly built, and the GDC are already working on fixing that if their drawings for the fields were incorrect all together. Or you just helped the GDC figure out what they would have figured out in Week 1 and can fix it now to ensure that doesn't happen again. Having that problem is going to make Rule [G37] impossible for the referees and field crew.
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Re: pic: Well Now What?

<G34> gives sticking your hand into the field a technical foul, so you'd want to find a ref or something about that, I have no idea.
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Re: pic: Well Now What?

So really what this becomes is a bonus for making a 'swish' into the high goal. Not only do you get 3 points, but your opponents don't get that ball. Awesome!
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Re: pic: Well Now What?

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So really what this becomes is a bonus for making a 'swish' into the high goal. Not only do you get 3 points, but your opponents don't get that ball. Awesome!
I wouldn't bet on that--it doesn't look like that ball would have tripped the sensors to count it.
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Re: pic: Well Now What?

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I wouldn't bet on that--it doesn't look like that ball would have tripped the sensors to count it.
I don't know about the sensors, but points are counted for the balls once they fully pass through the hoop by G38.


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Re: pic: Well Now What?

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I don't know about the sensors, but points are counted for the balls once they fully pass through the hoop by G38.
But wouldn't you then get a penalty for not returning it? :/
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But wouldn't you then get a penalty for not returning it? :/
Not at all! Take a look at G31. The ball never makes it to the corral, so it never has to be "removed immediately." There could potentially be 6 balls held by inbounders and an additional one stuck without penalty.

Personally, I'd call this a field fault and replay the match or simply fix it now to stop it from happening again.

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Re: pic: Well Now What?

Can somebody just verify for me that in this picture that ball got stuck in the return chute just before it gets counted? What I see in the picture (or what I think I see) is the ball was never scored (it never went through the hoop) it just missed the hoop and got stuck underneath the goal just above where the balls return to the corral.
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Re: pic: Well Now What?

I predict a return of the pokey sticks from 2006...
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Re: pic: Well Now What?

The ball didn't go in the hoop and return chute in this picture. The ball is sitting on top of the chute
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The ball didn't go in the hoop and return chute in this picture. The ball is sitting on top of the chute
Correct, I had to shrink the image because of CD's size limit. The ball is sitting on top of the return chute just under where the hoop is mounted.

Again this was my second shot and I saw a few others land in the same area during the morning.

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Correct, I had to shrink the image because of CD's size limit. The ball is sitting on top of the return chute just under where the hoop is mounted.

Again this was my second shot and I saw a few others land in the same area during the morning.

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a legal starvation strategy?
I'd rather put them in my lane than do that. 18 balls means if each robot has 3 there are none on the field or inbounders.

Any ball you get is a gift so starving in this game is realistically collecting your 3.
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