Human player making baskets

[bhaidet]

considering how difficult it will be to score from back there, I would expect that the flurry of hoarded balls from both sides will re-energize the game by leaving more on the floor from about 29 sec left to about 10 sec left when bots go for the ramps.

Scoring by people is unlikely but even humans failing can lead to a robot getting the ball fast and scoring. In fact, its possible that if both teams score balls like this (and the inbounders then get more to throw) there may be a second flurry of scoring with just a few seconds left by robots who can score more by shooting then by balancing.

[AdamE]

Originally Posted by bhaidet

considering how difficult it will be to score from back there, I would expect that the flurry of hoarded balls from both sides will re-energize the game by leaving more on the floor from about 29 sec left to about 10 sec left when bots go for the ramps.

Keep in mind rule G31

[G31]
Only Inbounders may contact Basketballs; each Inbounder may hold a maximum of two Basketballs. During Teleop, Inbounders must remove Basketballs from the Corral immediately upon arrival. All Basketballs in the Alliance Station must be held by Inbounders once removed from the Corral.
Violation: Foul

Hoarding balls is going to be a little difficult.

[bhaidet]

Originally Posted by AdamE

Keep in mind rule G31

[G31]
Only Inbounders may contact Basketballs; each Inbounder may hold a maximum of two Basketballs. During Teleop, Inbounders must remove Basketballs from the Corral immediately upon arrival. All Basketballs in the Alliance Station must be held by Inbounders once removed from the Corral.
Violation: Foul

Hoarding balls is going to be a little difficult.

but wouldn't you expect them to hold some? even if its only 3 or 4 from each side, there will be balls thrown at the end, and the vast majority of these will not score, but will be picked up by robots on either side. I would want to make sure my robot was on the scoring side at the 31 second mark.

[pyroslev]

In 2007, witnessed more than on kid throw those tubes for the hail mary. Any time there is something a player can throw, it flies. I tell any potential inbounder that if they can make that hail mary shot with the heat on, dinner's on me. Something like that ought to also give the top eight something else to consider when making alliance choices.

edit: You'll see some teams hold the max number and get tripped up with a foul. I think those will be gone within the first dozen matches only to come back and occur in the finals.

[mdiradoorian]

It is possible to make it from 54' because the human players on our team are practicing and have made quite a few shots between the highest basket and the two middle ones.

[Mr. Pockets]

Throwing a foam ball 54' while keeping it at a height where it can still land in one of the baskets will be quite a feat indeed. Still could see it happening, gonna bring this up to our strategy head for picking a human player.

[mdiradoorian]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pockets

Throwing a foam ball 54' while keeping it at a height where it can still land in one of the baskets will be quite a feat indeed. Still could see it happening, gonna bring this up to our strategy head for picking a human player.

A bit further than that because remember you are behind the 6' wall

[ratdude747]

Also keep in mind that these balls are smaller, and therefore easier to score with than a regulation men's or women's basketball.

I think a human player could make said basket.

[mdiradoorian]

Originally Posted by ratdude747

Also keep in mind that these balls are smaller, and therefore easier to score with than a regulation men's or women's basketball.

I think a human player could make said basket.

They could make a basket but it is definitly not easier to make it than a regulation size basketball because it weights a lot less and also the pressure at the competition.

[mercer13]

Originally Posted by mdiradoorian

They could make a basket but it is definitly not easier to make it than a regulation size basketball because it weights a lot less and also the pressure at the competition.

As from my knowledge of being on the Girls high school basketball team and the human player it is easier to throw the FIRST basketball, than a regulation size girls ball.

[Andy A.]

I saw a few baskets and near misses at the week zero I attended, and I by no means saw all the matches.

It can and will happen. I'm not sure if it will swing too many matches, but the potential exists. I'd have been happier if it wasn't allowed. My concern is less that it will swing matches and more that in the last 30 seconds there will be a lot of stuff going on- bridges rocking back and forth and robots taking last shots. Adding a flurry of human player shots to the mix seems like it made things even more confusing.

I guess it's a fairly minor complaint in what is otherwise shaping up to be a pretty good game. Time will tell...

[Siri]

Good thread revival. I was skeptical at first, but our guys make shots all the time. It's not the majority, but it's enough to see a couple during breaks. Definitely more than could be made with a regulation ball..

Originally Posted by mdiradoorian

They could make a basket but it is definitly not easier to make it than a regulation size basketball because it weights a lot less and also the pressure at the competition.

No offense meant, but isn't basketball also a high-pressure competition?

[mercer13]

Originally Posted by Siri

Good thread revival. I was skeptical at first, but our guys make shots all the time. It's not the majority, but it's enough to see a couple during breaks. Definitely more than could be made with a regulation ball..

No offense meant, but isn't basketball also a high-pressure competition?

yes basketball is a high-pressure competition

[GilaMonsterAlex]

At the very least you got to go for it. Worst case you get a foul, otherwise you miss and the ball is closer to the alliance.

[S.P.A.M.er]

I can see some teams putting their lone jocks as the human player this year just to try for those points. The only disadvantage i see to it is that they have 54' to throw it and over their inbounder station. Its highly unlikely but props to the teams who actually can make that shot.