2012 Bumper rule gray area

[SteveGPage]

Originally Posted by Munter2081

With the bumpers that low, driving over the center bump (not using ramps) is going to take a bit more thinking.....

Notice, if you place the bumpers in the higher part of the zone, the bottom of the bumpers would be about 4.5 inches off the floor. The barrier is only 4 inches tall.

[the man]

Originally Posted by SteveGPage

Notice, if you place the bumpers in the higher part of the zone, the bottom of the bumpers would be about 4.5 inches off the floor. The barrier is only 4 inches tall.

Wouldn't it be closer to 5", slightly less for bumper covering material?

[Bryce Paputa]

Another thing with the bumpers, is that one of the images seems to be incorrect, figure 4-2


(http://imgur.com/o0BbJ)

Although there is some unnecessary bumper, I don't see an issue with the circled edge.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by 1nv151b13

Another thing with the bumpers, is that one of the images seems to be incorrect, figure 4-2


(http://imgur.com/o0BbJ)

Although there is some unnecessary bumper, I don't see an issue with the circled edge.

A frame perimeter is contained inside a convex polygon.

[ToddF]

We decided a better caption for that arrow would have been "not required". Have to see if they change it.

[Alan Anderson]

The Bumper must be against the Frame Perimeter. On that particular corner, there's a bunch of bumper material inside the perimeter.

If you want to make a separate piece of bumper-ish assembly along that inside edge, and count its weight as part of the Robot, then I don't think there are any rules against it, but you can't make it part of the Bumper.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

The Bumper must be against the Frame Perimeter. On that particular corner, there's a bunch of bumper material inside the perimeter.

If you want to make a separate piece of bumper-ish assembly along that inside edge, and count its weight as part of the Robot, then I don't think there are any rules against it, but you can't make it part of the Bumper.

Exactly.

Over the past few years, a number of teams have asked questions about configurations exactly like the one shown. The response has been, almost universally, "No, it's not part of the bumper. No, that's not the frame perimeter."

Could you do it? Yep. Does it get counted as a bumper? Nope. Does it therefore count against size and weight? Yep. At least, that's my interpretation. (And no, I'm not on the GDC or remotely affiliated with them. So this is not an official interpretation.)

[GaryVoshol]

Notice that a portion of the "interior bumper-like structure" extends beyond the Frame Perimeter - that's the primary reason it's not OK. The section of the actual Bumper that extends partially across the cutout is also troublesome; I don't know if the rules address it as "unsupported" or not.

And as noted above, any bumper-like structures that do not qualify as Bumpers must be counted in size and weight.