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Re: Throw or Drop?

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It's impossible for the high goal, but perfectly implementable with the middle goals.
Good point, I forgot the baskets also protrude out so the three foot fender is a bit deceptive.
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Re: Throw or Drop?

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If we were in a vaccuum!
Since we're not, all it takes is a consistent shooting mechanism and a little time spent to solve the problem empirically. One physical example is worth a thousand models, so go build something and see what happens!
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Re: Throw or Drop?

Our team has looked at both, and may end up with both. If the basket is 14 inches long then it ends up something like 3 -4 inches from the edge of the rim. I poured basketballs into a trash can from this distance with ease. We are trying to figure out a way to use a dumping basket as a hopper for a shooter so we can do both.
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Re: Throw or Drop?

Just checked the math:
Not possible to dunk/drop balls into the hoops (Though you can get really close)

Barriers:
Fender: 38.75"

Now all the things to take out of that:
Hoop: Inside Diameter 18"
Backboard: 0.5"
Connection from hoop to backboard: 6" from inside of hoop to backboard
Total: 24.5" + some tiny distance for the diameter of the hoop ring (the metal itself not the gap in the middle)

38.75 - 24.5 = 14.25

You are allowed to extend out 14"

14.25" - 14" = 0.25"

So even under ideal circumstances your extention falls just short of the hoop. Dunking is physically impossible without tipping your robot somehow, or violating the rules.
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Re: Throw or Drop?

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14.25" - 14" = 0.25"
can't you overcome a quarter inch with spin? what about the diameter of the ball?


anyways, my team is ging to try for a shooting mechanism, our ultimate goal being the ability to take half-court shots. we are still in the process of selecting the best way to do this though,...
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Re: Throw or Drop?

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Just checked the math:
Not possible to dunk/drop balls into the hoops (Though you can get really close)

Barriers:
Fender: 38.75"

Now all the things to take out of that:
Hoop: Inside Diameter 18"
Backboard: 0.5"
Connection from hoop to backboard: 6" from inside of hoop to backboard
Total: 24.5" + some tiny distance for the diameter of the hoop ring (the metal itself not the gap in the middle)

38.75 - 24.5 = 14.25

You are allowed to extend out 14"

14.25" - 14" = 0.25"

So even under ideal circumstances your extention falls just short of the hoop. Dunking is physically impossible without tipping your robot somehow, or violating the rules.
i believe you also forgot the width of your bumpers between your frame and the fender. so we add another 3.25 inches or so...

0.25'' + 3.25'' = 3.5''
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Re: Throw or Drop?

For the people who plan to drop the balls into the hoops..please keep in mind that there is a limit to how far something can extend from your robot. I believe that the limit is 14". Plus the fender is adding additional space away from the basket. With all that being said...my team (#1850) decided to throw the dropping idea out of the loop. I hope with the information that I just gave you is helpful. Good LucK!
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