Go to Post Engineers talk with math first, and grammar second. It is a fact of life. - Molten [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Technical > Technical Discussion
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
View Poll Results: What weight is your team shooting for?
Will go out of way and add material to make the robot 120 lbs. 46 35.94%
Will shoot for 120 lbs, but will not necessarily make it. 26 20.31%
Going for the lightest robot possible. 25 19.53%
Not shooting for any specific weight. 26 20.31%
Other 5 3.91%
Voters: 128. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-01-2012, 11:49
crimsonjake's Avatar
crimsonjake crimsonjake is offline
Registered User
AKA: Jake Westerberg
FRC #2526 (Crimson Robotics)
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Posts: 4
crimsonjake is an unknown quantity at this point
Robot Weight

Just wondering how many teams will be shooting for the 120 weight limit! With the bridge being as tight as it will be with either 2 or 3 robots, I was thinking that all the robots on the alliance will need to be relatively the same weight.
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-01-2012, 11:54
Polaris395's Avatar
Polaris395 Polaris395 is offline
Registered User
FRC #2537
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Columbia, MD
Posts: 14
Polaris395 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Robot Weight

I think it will be pretty safe to assume that everyone is +/- 10 pounds from 110lbs.
__________________
___________
University of Delaware 2015
Chemical Engineering
Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab
Software Engineer
http://jhuapl.edu
FRC 2537 - RAID
Atholton High School
Consultant/Graduate
http://first.raidtech.net
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-01-2012, 12:02
crimsonjake's Avatar
crimsonjake crimsonjake is offline
Registered User
AKA: Jake Westerberg
FRC #2526 (Crimson Robotics)
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Posts: 4
crimsonjake is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Robot Weight

That's what I'm hoping. With the point value of 3 robots on the bridge in the elimination rounds it could be a game-changer, but the bridge size may hold a lot of alliances back. Even if all the robots on the alliance are built "the short way," balancing will be hard to coordinate unless they are all weighted the same. I haven't done the calculations as to how much leeway we get, but I'm assuming it is pretty small.
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-01-2012, 12:06
AlecMataloni AlecMataloni is offline
Excellence is Bliss
FRC #0111 (WildStang)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Mount Prospect, IL
Posts: 269
AlecMataloni has a reputation beyond reputeAlecMataloni has a reputation beyond reputeAlecMataloni has a reputation beyond reputeAlecMataloni has a reputation beyond reputeAlecMataloni has a reputation beyond reputeAlecMataloni has a reputation beyond reputeAlecMataloni has a reputation beyond reputeAlecMataloni has a reputation beyond reputeAlecMataloni has a reputation beyond reputeAlecMataloni has a reputation beyond reputeAlecMataloni has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Robot Weight

Where's the "drill enough weight holes so we're barely under 120lbs" option?
;-)
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-01-2012, 12:09
MrForbes's Avatar
MrForbes MrForbes is offline
Registered User
AKA: Jim
FRC #1726 (N.E.R.D.S.)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Sierra Vista AZ
Posts: 5,986
MrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Robot Weight

We're shooting for making the "upper" part of the robot as light as possible, and we're not concerned about the bottom part. But we'll make sure it's less than 120 on bag day
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-01-2012, 12:21
Jon Stratis's Avatar
Jon Stratis Jon Stratis is offline
Electrical/Programming Mentor
FRC #2177 (The Robettes)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 3,744
Jon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Robot Weight

It might not be a bad idea for a team to make their robot weight adjustable. Have some way to increase/decrease your weight by ~1 lb increments so you can match your alliance partners. "Our weight is adjustable. Robot A goes in the middle, we'll go opposite robot B and we've already calibrated our weight to 117lbs to match". Say that to a potential alliance before eliminations, and it could sway them to picking you!
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-01-2012, 12:22
rsegrest's Avatar
rsegrest rsegrest is offline
@ least I'm OVER the rock THIS time
FRC #2582 (PantherBots)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Lufkin, TX
Posts: 415
rsegrest has a brilliant futurersegrest has a brilliant futurersegrest has a brilliant futurersegrest has a brilliant futurersegrest has a brilliant futurersegrest has a brilliant futurersegrest has a brilliant futurersegrest has a brilliant futurersegrest has a brilliant futurersegrest has a brilliant futurersegrest has a brilliant future
Re: Robot Weight

We're with Squirrel. Low center of gravity is going to be critical when traversing the ramp so as long as our weight is at the bottom of the bot we're happy. Probably going to be close to the 120 but not neccessarily shooting for right at it.
__________________
Impossible is just a big word for small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.
~ Unknown
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-01-2012, 12:25
crimsonjake's Avatar
crimsonjake crimsonjake is offline
Registered User
AKA: Jake Westerberg
FRC #2526 (Crimson Robotics)
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Posts: 4
crimsonjake is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Robot Weight

Another thing that could play a factor (a very, very small factor) would be the unequal distribution of weight upon each wheel.

i.e. the front of the robot has more weight on its wheels than the back.

Just to keep in the back of your mind!
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-01-2012, 12:29
Pjohn1959's Avatar
Pjohn1959 Pjohn1959 is offline
Registered User
AKA: Paul W. Johnson
no team
Team Role: Teacher
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 543
Pjohn1959 has a reputation beyond reputePjohn1959 has a reputation beyond reputePjohn1959 has a reputation beyond reputePjohn1959 has a reputation beyond reputePjohn1959 has a reputation beyond reputePjohn1959 has a reputation beyond reputePjohn1959 has a reputation beyond reputePjohn1959 has a reputation beyond reputePjohn1959 has a reputation beyond reputePjohn1959 has a reputation beyond reputePjohn1959 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Robot Weight

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlecMataloni View Post
Where's the "drill enough weight holes so we're barely under 120lbs" option?
;-)
Or: "My hacksaw is my best friend..."
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-01-2012, 12:35
Aren Siekmeier's Avatar
Aren Siekmeier Aren Siekmeier is offline
on walkabout
FRC #2175 (The Fighting Calculators)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: 대한민국
Posts: 735
Aren Siekmeier has a reputation beyond reputeAren Siekmeier has a reputation beyond reputeAren Siekmeier has a reputation beyond reputeAren Siekmeier has a reputation beyond reputeAren Siekmeier has a reputation beyond reputeAren Siekmeier has a reputation beyond reputeAren Siekmeier has a reputation beyond reputeAren Siekmeier has a reputation beyond reputeAren Siekmeier has a reputation beyond reputeAren Siekmeier has a reputation beyond reputeAren Siekmeier has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Robot Weight

We'll build the entire robot as light as possible, then add solid steel to very bottom until we hit 120.
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-01-2012, 12:41
Phyrxes's Avatar
Phyrxes Phyrxes is offline
Has done the math, have you?
AKA: Dave Button
no team (No Team, Changed Schools)
Team Role: Teacher
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Gainesville VA
Posts: 489
Phyrxes has a brilliant futurePhyrxes has a brilliant futurePhyrxes has a brilliant futurePhyrxes has a brilliant futurePhyrxes has a brilliant futurePhyrxes has a brilliant futurePhyrxes has a brilliant futurePhyrxes has a brilliant futurePhyrxes has a brilliant futurePhyrxes has a brilliant futurePhyrxes has a brilliant future
Re: Robot Weight

We are going for the holesaw and sawzall it down to 120 but keep the CG as low as possible.
__________________
Dave Button
Physics and Mathematics Teacher
Wakefield School
The Plains, VA

“Simplify and add lightness.”
― Colin Chapman, Team Lotus
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-01-2012, 13:40
MrForbes's Avatar
MrForbes MrForbes is offline
Registered User
AKA: Jim
FRC #1726 (N.E.R.D.S.)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Sierra Vista AZ
Posts: 5,986
MrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Robot Weight

Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsonjake View Post
Another thing that could play a factor (a very, very small factor) would be the unequal distribution of weight upon each wheel.

i.e. the front of the robot has more weight on its wheels than the back.
We'll definitely do this, we will rearrange where things go to keep the center of mass centered between the front and back. Side to side is not too much of an issue....since we're planning a "wide" robot.
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-01-2012, 13:53
Taylor's Avatar
Taylor Taylor is offline
Professor of Thinkology, ThD
AKA: @taylorstem
FRC #3487 (EarthQuakers)
Team Role: Teacher
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Indianapolis, IN, USA 46227
Posts: 4,585
Taylor has a reputation beyond reputeTaylor has a reputation beyond reputeTaylor has a reputation beyond reputeTaylor has a reputation beyond reputeTaylor has a reputation beyond reputeTaylor has a reputation beyond reputeTaylor has a reputation beyond reputeTaylor has a reputation beyond reputeTaylor has a reputation beyond reputeTaylor has a reputation beyond reputeTaylor has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Robot Weight

As we understand this game, it's about speed. We'll keep our robot as light as possible. With a 35x27 frame and 8" wheels, we ought to be able to 'spin' on the bridge and change our orientation to perpendicular to the bridge, allowing our partners to climb up on the ends.
__________________
Hi!
  #14   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-01-2012, 16:10
Flimsor's Avatar
Flimsor Flimsor is offline
The Mad Cadder
FRC #1983 (Skunkworks Robotics)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Tukwila, WA
Posts: 157
Flimsor will become famous soon enough
Re: Robot Weight

We'll be shooting for lower than 120 but you always seem end up at the limit.
__________________

- 2014
- 2013

Thinking outside the box implies you have limited yourself in the first place.

Robots
  #15   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-02-2012, 19:35
DarkByakko's Avatar
DarkByakko DarkByakko is offline
Winner
AKA: Sam
FRC #3461 (Operation P.E.A.C.C.E.)
Team Role: Driver
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Litchfield County
Posts: 12
DarkByakko is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Robot Weight

Our team is on the fence with this. Assuming the majority of the teams competing are shooting for a weight near or equal to 120 lbs, we're more comfortable trying for a heavier bot due to the inevitable fact that if there are more heavy bots competing, a light bot would be pushed around.

We had this problem in the last competition, wherein our bot was lighter than the others, and the other heavier bots tended to push ours right out of the way.

It's a hard decision to make; sacrifice endurance for speed, or increase the weight for steadier shooting at the cost of a slower robot.
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:04.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi