Toughest regional?

[Nick Lawrence]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

What I don't understand is why do people keep listing GTR or Waterloo as a tough regional. It's the most predictable regionals out there. It's 1114 and 2056 hooking up with some lucky third team who'll they'll carry to a blue banner and they sweep through the elims. It's been that way for years. It aint gonna change.

Ontario is becoming more and more competitive each year.

It's not a clear cut "1114 and 2056 will win x regional" anymore. But, it's still pretty darn close to that, and I would still be surprised if that didn't happen.

-Nick

[CalTran]

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256

The toughest regional is the one where everyone helps each other and acts graciously professional.

Perhaps I don't understand something, but please explain?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by CalTran

Perhaps I don't understand something, but please explain?

When every team is at the top of their game, and all the other teams are helping them be at the top of their game (or above), then the regional will be extremely difficult to win for any single team on the field. On the other hand, every single team will win off the field because of the increased competitiveness and the interactions with the other teams.

[Ninja_Bait]

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256

The toughest regional is the one where everyone helps each other and acts graciously professional.

I would think the opposite is the truer statement... You may be confusing toughest with best.

It seems tougher to play when no one wants to be cooperative or helpful. While it is true that when all the bots at the regional are competitive, the caliber of play is raised, it is still very hard to play with robots that don't work or that don't play fair, and that swiftly spirals into a bitter litany of "we lost a match because of so-and-so purposely flipping us or because so-and-so's robot broke down in a feeder lane" excuses. It is less tough on the spectators and competitors when everyone is at the top of their game.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256

The toughest regional is the one where everyone helps each other and acts graciously professional.

2009 DC regional has set the standard for that.

[CalTran]

Ah. That would make sense. I think that would truly be a regional to see...

Originally Posted by CalTran

Perhaps I don't understand something, but please explain?

Where every team works to bring out the best in each team, it will be the hardest. Teams will learn strategies, and game capabilities that could be taught by other teams. If Team A has an "ok" robot, and Team B has a "great" robot, and Team B helps Team A find a winning strategy that works for them, Team A will become better and stronger, and can potentially win the competition.

If every team helps each other, then by Friday/Saturday, each team will be at their top-preforming level. This would create an extremely tough regional, because every team will be performing at their best, compared to a normal regional where only a few teams do, and others are "ok", leaving much less competition.

Because when everyone's great, no one looses.

[Squeakypig]

I think some of the MI teams I see posting here aren't giving credit to the toughest District competition there is...Troy!

Because of the amount of rookie teams that attend, you can almost guarantee who you will see in the finals. There are always a few surprises but the true veterans always end up making up the top 3 alliances.

In terms of the powerhouses/veterans:
1 Juggernauts
33 Killer Bees
67 HOT
217 Thunderchickens
469 Las Guerrillas
910 Foley Freeze

Of these teams, team 33 is the only team to not have a national championship victory. They, however, never fail to make it far on their field at the championship and have made a lot of appearances on Einstein.

[Nuttyman54]

Originally Posted by Squeakypig

I think some of the MI teams I see posting here aren't giving credit to the toughest District competition there is...Troy!

Because of the amount of rookie teams that attend, you can almost guarantee who you will see in the finals. There are always a few surprises but the true veterans always end up making up the top 3 alliances.

In terms of the powerhouses/veterans:
1 Juggernauts
33 Killer Bees
67 HOT
217 Thunderchickens
469 Las Guerrillas
910 Foley Freeze

Of these teams, team 33 is the only team to not have a national championship victory. They, however, never fail to make it far on their field at the championship and have made a lot of appearances on Einstein.

910 Foley Freeze has also never won a championship. They made it to Einstein in 2007 with 330 and 1270, and they are always a strong contender, however.

[Vikingtech2054]

Originally Posted by Squeakypig

I think some of the MI teams I see posting here aren't giving credit to the toughest District competition there is...Troy!

Because of the amount of rookie teams that attend, you can almost guarantee who you will see in the finals. There are always a few surprises but the true veterans always end up making up the top 3 alliances.

In terms of the powerhouses/veterans:
1 Juggernauts
33 Killer Bees
67 HOT
217 Thunderchickens
469 Las Guerrillas
910 Foley Freeze

Of these teams, team 33 is the only team to not have a national championship victory. They, however, never fail to make it far on their field at the championship and have made a lot of appearances on Einstein.

I do believe that the Michigan competition troy would be a hard competition, although the Michigan State Competition i believe is the hardest, the top 60 teams in Michigan adds up to tough competition.

Imagine a California (and Hawaii) state championship. That would be AWESOME!

[V_Chip]

Originally Posted by Nuttyman54

CT will be a brawl this year. 39 of the 62 teams have been around since 2006. Say what you will about the game similarities, the fact remains that over 60% of the regional attendees have a LOT of experience, and that's before you even consider the impressive list of perennial powerhouses in attendance. 118's even making the trek out from Texas to throw their name in the pool.

Connecticut is always a dense pool of East Coast fun.

We're excited to welcome 118 this year to the brawl.

[Squeakypig]

Originally Posted by Nuttyman54

910 Foley Freeze has also never won a championship. They made it to Einstein in 2007 with 330 and 1270, and they are always a strong contender, however.

My bad, for some reason I thought Foley won it with Frog Force one year. I was mistaken. Idk where I got that idea from.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Squeakypig

My bad, for some reason I thought Foley won it with Frog Force one year. I was mistaken. Idk where I got that idea from.

I might know.

Frog Force won with H.O.T. and BeachBots in 2005. In the process, they beat Foley in divisonal finals. Two years later, BeachBots and Foley beat H.O.T. in divisional finals to go to Einstein.

You probably just got teams 330 and 910 confused...

[apalrd]

Troy sounds fun. In the past three years, the teams I counted (33,67,217,469,910) have a combined 2 world championships, 5 Michigan state championships, 2 world finalists, 2 state finalists, and a bunch of regional and district wins to go with it. I'll throw 1718 onto the "good teams at Troy" list, as well.

I'll support Midwest as the best regional. Lots of great teams in one place.