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Re: Banebots RS-775 Case Short

I know as engineers we just love to solve problems. But the fact of the matter is that we should not be fixing these motors. FIRST and Banebots are knowingly sending out case shorted motors for use by children. (Yes, "children")

With all of our supposed focus on safety, FIRST should be demanding the immediate recall of all 775 motors for the season. No exceptions.

They are simply a hazard. Regardless of whether an adult works on the robot or not, you have the potential for a child to contact a machine which is drawing amps across the open robot frame.

When the problem has been understood for over a year, there is no excuse for distributing something so dangerous.
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Re: Banebots RS-775 Case Short

I wouldn't call them dangerous to people per-say but definitely dangerous to electronics, and completely unacceptable. First should find a good solutions, and alternative or a stern talk with banebots.
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Re: Banebots RS-775 Case Short

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Do you happen to have a spare RS-550 laying around to test the same thing with?
No, the only reason we're willing to do destructive tests with the RS-775's is because they're defective and unsuitable for competition. They're scrap metal to us.
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Re: Banebots RS-775 Case Short

Maybe the 775s should be saved for the ultimate pole climbing minibot.
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Re: Banebots RS-775 Case Short

We placed an order for about 10 775's, about 3 or 4 of them had case shorts, we tested the ones off of our 2011 bot as well, 1 of them had a case short. This is a bunch of ##### @@@@!!! I don't want to re-inspect at Troy district and find continuity through our frame after the garabage motors have run in and shorted. Want to return them and go with FP's.
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Want to return them
Let us know how that works out for you, OK?

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Re: Banebots RS-775 Case Short

Probably not very well, 10 motors already mounted to CIM-ulator's is a heafty order to return.
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Re: Banebots RS-775 Case Short

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Probably not very well, 10 motors already mounted to CIM-ulator's is a heafty order to return.
It's banebots problem, not yours.

I'd scream bloody murder until they not only took them back, but sent you a UPS/USPS/FedEx label for the return.
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It's banebots problem, not yours.

I'd scream bloody murder until they not only took them back, but sent you a UPS/USPS/FedEx label for the return.
Banebots has a large history of not listening to any of us. How do you change that?
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Re: Banebots RS-775 Case Short

Simple, don't buy anything from them.
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Re: Banebots RS-775 Case Short

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Simple, don't buy anything from them.
But seeing they are 4 of the motors we can use... and provide the simplest gearbox solution for those 4 motors....
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Re: Banebots RS-775 Case Short

No one said building robots was easy.
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Simple, don't buy anything from them.
It's the American thing to do. We're not financially supporting BaneBots this year.
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Re: Banebots RS-775 Case Short

What I dont get is that the banebots make up 4 of our motors and are notorious for the case short issue, but the Fisher Price only makes up 2 of our allotted motors. So why doesn't first just let us use 4 Fisher Price motors and get rid of the bane bots all together.
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It's the American thing to do. We're not financially supporting BaneBots this year.
Banebots doesn't manufacture any of their motors; I'm going to try to hunt down the chinese manufacturer/ source of their 550's and see if I can order directly from them instead of banebots.
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