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Re: Setting RPMs on motors

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Have you successfully done this?

Define "success." We did it on our drivetrain last year, with each wheel being controlled separately, and tuned the values using BDC-COMM. Were we able to control the speed of the wheels comfortably? Yes. But we faced typical Jaguar reliability issues that led us to replace them with Victors + homebrewed speed control code.
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Re: Setting RPMs on motors

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Define "success."
In this context, I guess I meant:

- did you measure the actual steady-state output speed and confirm that it was indeed equal to the speed you were commanding?

- was it stable?

- was the dynamic response "good"? (I know, define "good". How about a rough estimate of step response compared to voltage mode or %Vbus mode)

- for a given speed command, did the controller hold the same output speed under different loads?

The reason I ask is that if you were successful, the folks at this thread would like to hear about it:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=100135

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Re: Setting RPMs on motors

You can use a PID Controller and use RPM as the unit.
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You can use a PID Controller and use RPM as the unit.
Your post is shown in the "threaded display mode" as being a response to my post#14. Was that intentional or inadvertent?

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Your post is shown in the "threaded display mode" as being a response to my post#14. Was that intentional or inadvertent?

Unintentional; I just use the "quick reply" button, so I just click the closest one.
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I just use the "quick reply" button, so I just click the closest one.
Friendly suggestion: You might want to rethink that habit. Without any context in your post, the only clue regarding what you are responding to is the hierarchy in the threaded display mode.

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Re: Setting RPMs on motors

Heck, with CAN now fully going and err... reliable?... you can use the Jaguar's Speed interface to control RPM.

It's legal this year, and it takes some of the overhead out of the programming, as well as making it respond better.

Just an idea.

I think Team Fusion is going this route.
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you can use the Jaguar's Speed interface to control RPM.
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