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Unread 31-01-2012, 08:52
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Re: 2nd Most Awaited Q and A Answer?

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As that pipe moves out of the frame perimeter there's going to be a period of time where you have more than one appendage for a fraction of a second. Unless the GDC makes another ruling that would seem to be a violation. I suppose you could build one that only has tubing on one side and a way to stop it with that tubing facing inwards to park but it wouldn't be fun.
It is unfortunate that the semantics have gotten this complicated.

Q. If an extension forks outside of the frame perimeter, does it count as a single extension? For example, if 7" away from the frame, the appendage splits into two separate bars.
A. Only one appendage may extend beyond the Frame Perimeter. There are no rules prohibiting appendages that fork once outside the Frame Perimeter.


It seems the gisted question is whether "once" refers to a segment of time or a segment of space. Given the question's reference to space in this capacity ("splits" takes place in a specific place as measured in inches, not a specific time), I'd venture that it's the latter. Of course, I don't know.

Perhaps what they need to do is define it as "after deployment, or when it intentionally comes in contact with a Court element (whichever comes first)". This would seem to preclude the potential loopholes above.

Tuba4: Of course; this is true of all appendages.

Johnr: Our current problem is defining what "deployed" means, but much of this call will actually be left up to the Refs in-game under G21, as teams may well have a robot that could meet R02 but doesn't (e.g. has two appendages, and extends both at the same time). The Inspectors also have R02, but the inspection list has yet to be published.

Does anyone remember when the Inspection Checklist usually comes out?
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Re: 2nd Most Awaited Q and A Answer?

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Does anyone remember when the Inspection Checklist usually comes out?
The last week of build, iirc.

If you're depending on getting the "right" wording on the inspection checklist for a mechanism on your robot to be legal, you might want to redesign the mechanism NOW
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Re: 2nd Most Awaited Q and A Answer?

I haven't checked this thread for a while.
If the GDC had more thoughtfully considered our concerns regarding the points I was trying to zero in on with my earlier posts (for which I was accused of lawyer-ing the rules), their latest answer might have been more comprehensively clear cut.

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Re: 2nd Most Awaited Q and A Answer?

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"after deployment, or when it intentionally comes in contact with a Court element (whichever comes first)"
I wish this were their actual answer. It is much better
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