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Re: Near-death experiences or injuries during build season?

Seeing this thread makes me think. Is there some sort of waiver for FRC teams, removing teams/schools from liability for any injury sustained during a team function? If there isn't, there really shouldn't be. The last thing FIRST needs is to have a kid lose a finger or something due to his/her own carelessness or some sort of machine malfunction. Is that perhaps part of TIMS?
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Re: Near-death experiences or injuries during build season?

All teams have to have each student sign a waiver when they come to both kickoffs and regionals.
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Re: Near-death experiences or injuries during build season?

One of my teammates found a three-prong AC plug lying around that wasn't attached to a cable; just three exposed screw terminals. Of course, his immediate instinct was to plug it in.

These stories might be somewhat entertaining, but hopefully teams also see them as examples of why safe working practices are so important. "Near-death experience" means exactly what it says: something that can kill you if you aren't lucky.
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Re: Near-death experiences or injuries during build season?

While setting up a simple test rig for a gyroscope, my mentor set the rig down on the robot and turned away. Unbenounced to him, he set it right on top of exposed battery terminals which the mechanics neglected to cover. The gyroscope proceeded to catch fire and a nasty plume of smoke came from the robot. We had to ventilate the room. From then on, we checked that the battery terminals were covered.

Lesson learned; cover all exposed terminals. And make sure not to use frayed PWM cables.
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Re: Near-death experiences or injuries during build season?

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All teams have to have each student sign a waiver when they come to both kickoffs and regionals.
That is a waiver for the event, not for the activities the team members are involved in during build season.

For us, any team member under 16 may only use hand tools. 16+ are allowed to use power tools and larger shop equipment under supervision of an adult mentor and proper training.
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Re: Near-death experiences or injuries during build season?

Not near death, but quite brutal. In 2010, we, like many teams, had a kicker that rotated around a central pivot, powered by a ton of surgical tubing. The top of the kicker had a gate latch to hold t in the ready position. Because there was a lot of tension on the piece, it took a fair amount of force to open the latch. While testing, one of our mentors put a hand on the robot to steady it while he manually pulled the latch. The kicker swung down and slammed his hand against another piece, deeply cutting his hand by his thumb. I think he needed stitches and was wearing a wrist brace thing to demobilize his thumb. With the liability issue, I think he believed it was his own fault and didn't blame the team.

Lessons: Beware of fast and powerful mechanisms, and keep hands away from loaded mechanisms if powered by springs or surgical tubing. Protect sharp/narrow pieces of metal in the bot. (we covered the exposed edge of that piece of sheet metal with pneumatic tubing slit in half. We also made a brace to keep the robot from firing if cocked and not on the field. We have also begun putting warning signs on dangerous parts of the robot.)
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Re: Near-death experiences or injuries during build season?

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That is a waiver for the event, not for the activities the team members are involved in during build season.

For us, any team member under 16 may only use hand tools. 16+ are allowed to use power tools and larger shop equipment under supervision of an adult mentor and proper training.
But what if one of those 16 year olds say leaves a key in a chuck, turns on the lathe and ends up losing an eye because of that mistake? Does your team have some sort of document protecting you and/or the school from legal action?
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