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Re: MAC or PC

I can summarize my reason for preference of PC in two words:

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Re: MAC or PC

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I can summarize my reason for preference of PC in two words:

Right.
Click.
That was incoherent.

A couple of points:
1) MacOS and Linux are closely related. Both are derivatives of UNIX, a 40 year old good idea.
2) Don't confuse user interfaces with operating systems (like Microsoft has done)
3) All the lovely semiconductor technology we depend on is designed on UNIX/Linux systems
4) these days, the only software function that gets inextricably tied to Windoze are games.
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Re: MAC or PC

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PC by the way. Don't like Mac's layout and their proprietary ways.
There's nothing really that proprietary about Macs. They use the same hardware in other computers, and software-wise OSX is a certified UNIX operating system with a highly customized UI. There's way more open-source software under the hood of OSX than there is in Windows. If you're using Chrome or the default browser on Android, you can thank Apple for creating the open-source WebKit rendering engine these browsers use.

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I can summarize my reason for preference of PC in two words:

Right.
Click.
Pretty much all Apple hardware released in the past five or six years has had a hardware right click.

Prior to that (and continuing to today), OSX supported right click functionality from non-Apple mice.

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4) these days, the only software function that gets inextricably tied to Windoze are games.
While I'm not a huge gamer, between the Mac App Store and Steam, there are enough available games for OSX for my interests. I've had no problems playing games like Portal 2 or Half Life 2 from Steam on OSX.
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Re: MAC or PC

MACS for editing software etc, and WINDOWS for gaming! But I prefer MACS.
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Re: MAC or PC

I would prefer to be well versed in both. Sadly, I am not. My OS of choice is Windos. Why? Because every application I have supported in the last 10 years at work only run on Windows.
Is it superior? Nope.
Is it inferior? Nope.
It is what I support, thus it pays the bills.

As I posted in another Win. Vs Mac thread, "It's not what you do it on that counts. It's what you do with it!"
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There's nothing really that proprietary about Macs. They use the same hardware in other computers, and software-wise OSX is a certified UNIX operating system with a highly customized UI. There's way more open-source software under the hood of OSX than there is in Windows. If you're using Chrome or the default browser on Android, you can thank Apple for creating the open-source WebKit rendering engine these browsers use.
By proprietary, I mean that you can't install OSX on a Windows based machine without some tinkering, while you can install Windows on an Apple machine right out of the box.
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Re: MAC or PC

I gotta say, I can acknowledge Mac's uses, such as video, image, and sound creation/editing. But Windows does everything else better than Mac. So, Windows.

BTW, PC means Personal Computer, so a MAc is A "PC" too. I'm assuming you meant Windows.
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Re: MAC or PC

Mac all the way. Have one that's almost four years old and works better than my friend's two year old PC. Macs run Photoshop and other Adobe products better than PCs and since I rely on those programs for school any other type of computer is out of the question.
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Re: MAC or PC

I prefer the Mac OS.
I'm majoring in Graphic Design and do a lot of image and video editing, and have been using a Mac simply because it tends to be the industry standard.

The gaming PC in my house is obviously a Windows, and it has much better hardware for cheaper.

I like both. They have their own pros and cons, and I think blindly hating one or the other is actually kind of ignorant.
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This what I say: You pay for what you get. My Macbook pro, while pretty expensive, has run far better than any of the cheaper PCs I've ever used, and I've used a lot of PCs.

For those who don't like Mac's layout, let me ask you this: How much time have you spent on Macs vs. time on PCs? If you actually know how to use a Mac, they are very powerful tools. They just take time to learn, like everything else.
You could have gotten a top-end pc of for all that money you just spent on a mac equivalent to a cheapo pc
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I would prefer to be well versed in both. Sadly, I am not. My OS of choice is Windos. Why? Because every application I have supported in the last 10 years at work only run on Windows.
Is it superior? Nope.
Is it inferior? Nope.
It is what I support, thus it pays the bills.

As I posted in another Win. Vs Mac thread, "It's not what you do it on that counts. It's what you do with it!"
I totally agree, if it gets the job done, that's perfect.
If it doesn't, well, then you have a problem...
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Re: MAC or PC

Linux.

I am primarily a Coder, and Linux is fast and secure. I find Windows is far too insecure and Macs WAY to expensive.

I know Windows programs don't work for the most part, but nearly everything your standard computer user uses it has.

I am so an advocate for the Free Software and Open Source Movements. (yes they are different.)
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While this is on topic, I want to create a partition of Linux on my Mac for use of CAD, however am a bit unsure since I hear it requires a lot of coding to get right. Any tips?
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While this is on topic, I want to create a partition of Linux on my Mac for use of CAD, however am a bit unsure since I hear it requires a lot of coding to get right. Any tips?
Why Linux for CAD? Just create a Bootcamp partition (doesn't require any "coding", unless you count clicking buttons in a GUI "coding") for Windows and you can install Inventor, Solidworks, and/or PRO|E / Creo.
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Why Linux for CAD? Just create a Bootcamp partition (doesn't require any "coding", unless you count clicking buttons in a GUI "coding") for Windows and you can install Inventor, Solidworks, and/or PRO|E / Creo.
Bootcamp? Never heard of it.
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