FRC 95 Week 4 Video

[JamesCH95]

The pneumatics system isn't together yet, so some parts are operated by hand.
Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja4uZ0Fxe-M

Questions? Comments? Feel free!

[Brandon Holley]

Impressive work so far! I like the carwash.

-Brando

[mott]

Excellent concept...rake the balls up over your bumper and avoid all the bumper rule confusion completely!

However, please review the following thread in detail. It would appear from your video that your appendage (like those of many teams) would be illegal per current GDC rulings.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=100696

Hopefully, they'll figure this out...and soon.

Great work and good luck!

[Dave Campbell]

Nice work. Speaking of copy - We plan to use your turret design. Thanks for the pics and video!

[BrendanB]

Originally Posted by mott

Excellent concept...rake the balls up over your bumper and avoid all the bumper rule confusion completely!

However, please review the following thread in detail. It would appear from your video that your appendage (like those of many teams) would be illegal per current GDC rulings.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=100696

Hopefully, they'll figure this out...and soon.

Great work and good luck!

How is their mechanism illegal? I see it as one solid appendage (see the solid bar that goes across the bottom. I see that rule that you can't have multiple appendages that come out connected by surgical tubing, zipties, or string and have some smart team say, "Well, it is one appendage because it is connected".

Great design we worked with a similar design for ball pickup but couldn't get a roller over the bumper to work but your car wash roller is amazing! We settled for a hopper on the ground that flips up like yours.

Can't wait to see this at BAE and CT!

[wilsonmw04]

Originally Posted by mott

Excellent concept...rake the balls up over your bumper and avoid all the bumper rule confusion completely!

However, please review the following thread in detail. It would appear from your video that your appendage (like those of many teams) would be illegal per current GDC rulings.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=100696

Hopefully, they'll figure this out...and soon.

Great work and good luck!

They have two cloth pieces attached to a bar. Neither of them are outside the robot at the same time. Looks legal to me...

[johnr]

It's sad that we even have to question the legality of this appendage. I believe it is legal, however let's look at it the way some people are reading the rules. If that solid bar is welded right to the edge of the side plates it should be legal. If it is bolted thru the side plates that means there is some part of the side plate, let's say 1/8" that passes over the perimeter first making it illegal. I can't believe i'm even thinking about this still.

[JamesCH95]

Originally Posted by mott

Excellent concept...rake the balls up over your bumper and avoid all the bumper rule confusion completely!

However, please review the following thread in detail. It would appear from your video that your appendage (like those of many teams) would be illegal per current GDC rulings.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=100696

Hopefully, they'll figure this out...and soon.

Great work and good luck!

The first part to exit the frame perimeter is the tubular cross-piece, keeping us legal.

Thanks everyone! We're going to keep pushing to get all the pneumatics setup and hopefully be fully operational by the end of the week.

[mott]

I also hope this kind of set-up is eventually cleared as being legal but it was really the pieces of "cloth" on the spinning axle that caught my attention. If it's possible for any piece of those flaps (or the outermost perimeter of the hardware to which they're attached) to break across the plane of the frame perimeter before the axle of the spinner crosses the frame perimeter it would (by current GDC rulings) be illegal during that brief period during deployment that the axle hasn't yet crossed the frame perimeter.

The bar at the bottom that crosses the frame perimeter first has nothing to do with it.

I agree that it's ridiculous to still have to be considering this but until we see something different from the GDC, I see no responsible option but to keep it in mind.

Let's all keep our fingers crossed!

[JamesCH95]

Originally Posted by mott

I also hope this kind of set-up is eventually cleared as being legal but it was really the pieces of "cloth" on the spinning axle that caught my attention. If it's possible for any piece of those flaps (or the outermost perimeter of the hardware to which they're attached) to break across the plane of the frame perimeter before the axle of the spinner crosses the frame perimeter it would (by current GDC rulings) be illegal during that brief period during deployment that the axle hasn't yet crossed the frame perimeter.

The bar at the bottom that crosses the frame perimeter first has nothing to do with it.

I agree that it's ridiculous to still have to be considering this but until we see something different from the GDC, I see no responsible option but to keep it in mind.

Let's all keep our fingers crossed!

You're right, we'll definitely keep an eye on that.

Though I'm confident our mechanism obeys the rules' spirit, there is always the lawyering...

[sgrinde]

Another rule you may consider is [R35]. Can your number be seen on all four bumpers?

[wardawg]

Originally Posted by sgrinde

Another rule you may consider is [R35]. Can your number be seen on all four bumpers?

I agree, this rule is what i was thinking makes this design illegal. My team cant see a way around that with their current design. hope you guys can figure out a way around that.

[Laaba 80]

cool idea. How well do the balls go from the top of the robot into the tower while the robot is moving?

[Peyton Yeung]

Is that another 5 bar shooter? Looks good.

[its da PAT!!!]

Originally Posted by Tubatroopa

Is that another 5 bar shooter? Looks good.

Please tell me what a 5 bar shooter is?