FRC 95 Week 4 Video

[mott]

Excellent concept...rake the balls up over your bumper and avoid all the bumper rule confusion completely!

However, please review the following thread in detail. It would appear from your video that your appendage (like those of many teams) would be illegal per current GDC rulings.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=100696

Hopefully, they'll figure this out...and soon.

Great work and good luck!

[BrendanB]

Originally Posted by mott

Excellent concept...rake the balls up over your bumper and avoid all the bumper rule confusion completely!

However, please review the following thread in detail. It would appear from your video that your appendage (like those of many teams) would be illegal per current GDC rulings.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=100696

Hopefully, they'll figure this out...and soon.

Great work and good luck!

How is their mechanism illegal? I see it as one solid appendage (see the solid bar that goes across the bottom. I see that rule that you can't have multiple appendages that come out connected by surgical tubing, zipties, or string and have some smart team say, "Well, it is one appendage because it is connected".

Great design we worked with a similar design for ball pickup but couldn't get a roller over the bumper to work but your car wash roller is amazing! We settled for a hopper on the ground that flips up like yours.

Can't wait to see this at BAE and CT!

[wilsonmw04]

Originally Posted by mott

Excellent concept...rake the balls up over your bumper and avoid all the bumper rule confusion completely!

However, please review the following thread in detail. It would appear from your video that your appendage (like those of many teams) would be illegal per current GDC rulings.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=100696

Hopefully, they'll figure this out...and soon.

Great work and good luck!

They have two cloth pieces attached to a bar. Neither of them are outside the robot at the same time. Looks legal to me...

[johnr]

It's sad that we even have to question the legality of this appendage. I believe it is legal, however let's look at it the way some people are reading the rules. If that solid bar is welded right to the edge of the side plates it should be legal. If it is bolted thru the side plates that means there is some part of the side plate, let's say 1/8" that passes over the perimeter first making it illegal. I can't believe i'm even thinking about this still.

[JamesCH95]

Originally Posted by mott

Excellent concept...rake the balls up over your bumper and avoid all the bumper rule confusion completely!

However, please review the following thread in detail. It would appear from your video that your appendage (like those of many teams) would be illegal per current GDC rulings.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=100696

Hopefully, they'll figure this out...and soon.

Great work and good luck!

The first part to exit the frame perimeter is the tubular cross-piece, keeping us legal.

Thanks everyone! We're going to keep pushing to get all the pneumatics setup and hopefully be fully operational by the end of the week.

[mott]

I also hope this kind of set-up is eventually cleared as being legal but it was really the pieces of "cloth" on the spinning axle that caught my attention. If it's possible for any piece of those flaps (or the outermost perimeter of the hardware to which they're attached) to break across the plane of the frame perimeter before the axle of the spinner crosses the frame perimeter it would (by current GDC rulings) be illegal during that brief period during deployment that the axle hasn't yet crossed the frame perimeter.

The bar at the bottom that crosses the frame perimeter first has nothing to do with it.

I agree that it's ridiculous to still have to be considering this but until we see something different from the GDC, I see no responsible option but to keep it in mind.

Let's all keep our fingers crossed!

[JamesCH95]

Originally Posted by mott

I also hope this kind of set-up is eventually cleared as being legal but it was really the pieces of "cloth" on the spinning axle that caught my attention. If it's possible for any piece of those flaps (or the outermost perimeter of the hardware to which they're attached) to break across the plane of the frame perimeter before the axle of the spinner crosses the frame perimeter it would (by current GDC rulings) be illegal during that brief period during deployment that the axle hasn't yet crossed the frame perimeter.

The bar at the bottom that crosses the frame perimeter first has nothing to do with it.

I agree that it's ridiculous to still have to be considering this but until we see something different from the GDC, I see no responsible option but to keep it in mind.

Let's all keep our fingers crossed!

You're right, we'll definitely keep an eye on that.

Though I'm confident our mechanism obeys the rules' spirit, there is always the lawyering...