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Re: Blowing spike fuses

Which rule says you cannot use the self resetting circuit breaker in the spike? Or says you have to use a fuse rather than the 20 amp CB? I cannot find mention of that in the 2012 rule book.

The vex web site says specifically the spike is designed for the self resetting CB.
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Re: Blowing spike fuses

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Which rule says you cannot use the self resetting circuit breaker in the spike? Or says you have to use a fuse rather than the 20 amp CB? I cannot find mention of that in the 2012 rule book.

The vex web site says specifically the spike is designed for the self resetting CB.
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Re: Blowing spike fuses

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Which rule says you cannot use the self resetting circuit breaker in the spike? Or says you have to use a fuse rather than the 20 amp CB? I cannot find mention of that in the 2012 rule book.

The vex web site says specifically the spike is designed for the self resetting CB.

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The fuse on a relay feeding the compressor may be replaced with a 20 Amp Snap-Action circuit breaker (recommended).
Since this rule only specifically says that the spike regulating the compressor may have a replaced fuse, my interpretation of the rule is that you can only replace the fuse on the compressor's spike; I feel that the manual would have been worded differently if you were allowed to replace fuses on all spikes.

But of course, it's not my interpretation that matters, it's the GDC's. Someone should ask this in Q&A and get a clear answer.
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Re: Blowing spike fuses

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But of course, it's not my interpretation that matters, it's the GDC's. Someone should ask this in Q&A and get a clear answer.
I expect I will do that since without anything official, it will be the inspector's definition I would have to follow.

In any case you need to know why the fuse is blowing and be sure you are not masking something that needs to be fixed.
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Re: Blowing spike fuses

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I expect I will do that since without anything official, it will be the inspector's definition I would have to follow.

In any case you need to know why the fuse is blowing and be sure you are not masking something that needs to be fixed.
What needs to be fixed has been said already. They are stalling the motor, which stalls at over 20amps. So they need which to a speed controller.
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