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Re: Rule about being in the key

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More like an easy way to score some red cards, amirite?

Yeah, if you do this, they're going to red card you on about the third or fourth "accidental" bump. And the second bump in subsequent matches.
It's debatable how G44/G45 will be enforced. Personally, I would think that simply bumping an opponent as it goes by is legitimate, and would call a penalty on the opponent; I think that's what G44 was meant for, and that G45 should only apply to strategies such as pushing an opponent across the field to a G28 zone. But I'm not a referee (again... ) so who knows...
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Re: Rule about being in the key

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It's debatable how G44/G45 will be enforced. Personally, I would think that simply bumping an opponent as it goes by is legitimate, and would call a penalty on the opponent; I think that's what G44 was meant for, and that G45 should only apply to strategies such as pushing an opponent across the field to a G28 zone. But I'm not a referee (again... ) so who knows...
It's a strategy meant to get points from someone else's [G28]. Or rather, a strategy where they put themselves in a position where you could inflict a [G28]. If you're bumping them sort of like an indication that "I'm here, and you're too close", and you only do it once or twice a match, you're probably OK, IMO. If you're doing it 5, 6, 7 times, especially if you're being aggressive about it, then you should expect to be T-fouled and carded.

Think about it like if you're playing Ultimate, and you think someone's too close to you while you have the Frisbee. So you swing your arm out to the appropriate distance, and if it hits them, they have to back up. But if you did that too often, you're holding up the game...
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Re: Rule about being in the key

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The other things you mentioned are up for debate though, may get called for the same violation considering it says "interfere with the operation of other Robots." One could say if you build a robot that is a giant wall to block the view of the operators you could have a "part" that "interferes" with the "operation" of that robot. But, like I said, its debatable.
If they choose to do so (call it that way), it would be equivalent to saying that no robot may enter the opponents side of the field. I guarantee you that our tread noise will interfere with their sonar sensors. If their camera is set low enough, then our robot's sides will interfere with their cameras. And so on...

I don't think that's how they'll call it.
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Re: Rule about being in the key

The calls on interfering with another robot's operation are typically on systems that are built for the express purpose of stopping another robot from functioning properly. So your tread noise interfering with sonar would be fine, though I find that claim doubtful. Building an omni-directional ultrasonic pulse emitter with no receivers would be a problem. Having a wall bot because that's how your robot is built is fine. Having a wall bot with a retro-reflective square on it to confuse an opponent's camera would be a problem.
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