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View Poll Results: Tall Shooter or Short Shooter
Tall 63 52.50%
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

We have a short shooter (24" at the very top, yeah we have a small robot), and our rationale was:
  • Less weight-you don't need to build a huge superstructre on the shooter
  • Lower Center of Gravity-you can cross the barrier and the bridge without tipping over.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

Another short shooter here. Our robot is under 3 feet to make sure we won't flip in the event of a bridge mishap. It made mounting electronics interesting but also cut out a good chunk of aluminum weight. We're at 119 still so we definitely took advantage of it.

Unless you're shooting at a low angle I don't see having a short shooter being a huge factor in competition. Those shooting from the key will ensure anyone close enough to block them takes penalties and those shooting from the fender will need to have no one in front of them to score anyway.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

Mid shooter at 48". It allows our camera to be around 42" up, and we never tipped in practice on bumpr or bridge (thanks to a lot of clever placements from yours truly, giant wheels, and a wheelie bar.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

~55in because we have a feeding shot (in addition to a key shot) that we don't want to have blocked in the opposing zone. Still she's a little tipp-y in wide snake (another unicorn drive this year). We'll fix that.
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Our shooter is ~ 24" and the robot is 39" tall I think. Our plan was that we would have a lower cg for the bump and bridge plus reducing weight. We also figured there wouldn't be many opposing robots blocking.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

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easier to block the short guy . why do you think you dont see any...... shorter ethnicities playing basketball
That's not true based on our design. Our robot launches the ball from aprozimately 36 inches above the ground with an angle of 65 degrees. And even if a 60 inch robot is parked right up against our front bumper we can still shoot over them without a problem.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

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easier to block the short guy . why do you think you dont see any...... shorter ethnicities playing basketball
our team is very very fast to stop blockers
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

We're a mid shooter, just a little under 50", and we may end up shortening it. We don't have too many tipping problems, and I doubt anyone can block us from shooting.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

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Not necessarily. It's entirely possible to design short shooters that shoot at an angle that's impossible to block. (E.g. the ball is over 60" above the ground by the time it leaves the robot's frame perimeter).
Just like 25 in 2006. Everyone thought they shot low but the ball left their frame perimeter very high in actuality.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

We originally planned as having our shooter at 58 inches high. Yikes we would have tipped easily. We then wanted to reduce as much weight and still have the same ability to shoot over tall defenders from blocking our shots.

So we did the math and psychics and calculated that, using our shooter would still be able to go over a 60 inch defender if we lowered the height to 48 inches. Thats about 10 inches shorter lowering our center of gravity.

So I guess we are a median shooter at 48 inches.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

We have a short shooter but because when the ball leaves our perimeter it is above 60 inches it makes no difference. We figured the lower we could put our shooter, the better. This way we keep our center of gravity lower and struggle less with the bump and bridge and overall have more stable driving.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

We built a tall shooter. In our week 0 our autonomous shot over the top of a short shooter, who then shot after us. It worked out quite well, there is definitely a place for both in the game.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

Shoot from the back of the key, the opposing alliance wouldn't risk entering the front of the key to block shorter bots. One possible problem with short bots though, the shot won't be blocked because of the arc, but the linear line of sight of the camera might be.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

we actually put our shooter on a elevator lift so we can choose our heights. it worked out a lot better than i thought. and also put our camera low because we didn't see the point for tracking since we don't have turret.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

Our shooter is about 40" up, because we already have the x position fixed and the length of the collector (the hypotenuse) fixed.
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