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Re: Favorite FRC Game?

I liked 2008 a lot, and seem to be in the minority with that. Hybrid was relatively exciting, seeing how many lines a bot could cross or watching a team come very close to/barely knock a trackball off. It was really exciting to watch someone hurdle, and there was a plethora of high-speed collisions with the lap bots.


Logomotion was exciting to watch in the eliminations and in St. Louis, but the qualification matches were not so much.
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Re: Favorite FRC Game?

It's a tough choice for me, I've seen gameplay from many different games. Rebound Rumble is a very exciting game to watch and is currently my favorite. Logomotion is my least favorite. It was fun, but it was somewhat difficult for rookie teams, and too easy for Vet teams. A 7 seed made it to Einstein. Logomotion was very imbalanced, and the minibot challenge endgame was pure luck at times.

Breakaway was also very fun to watch and drive in. Lunacy was not very good, mainly because of the reliance of Human Players to score for many teams. It was okay though.

My second favorite game though is Aim High. The combination of Offensive and Defensive rounds, and how the game could hang on your autonomous was amazing.
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Re: Favorite FRC Game?

I always feel like I'm the only one who really likes Triple Play... it might be because it was my first year and our robot was really good, but it's still my favorite. As for more recent games, I would have to go with Breakaway...
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Re: Favorite FRC Game?

2006. This year has a chance to unseat it.

My order:
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7) getting my fingernails removed by a belt sander
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Re: Favorite FRC Game?

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Logomotion is my least favorite. It was fun, but it was somewhat difficult for rookie teams, and too easy for Vet teams. A 7 seed made it to Einstein.
Really? You consider that bad? Then you must have hated 2007 when an 8th seed won championship.

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2003 above fingernail removal by belt sander! I'm surprised by that. I would have put those the other way.
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2003 above fingernail removal by belt sander! I'm surprised by that. I would have put those the other way.
It was my first year, so I didn't have much to compare it with. I can tell objectively that by my current standards I wouldn't like the rules and gameplay, but I can't really tell if I'd have the visceral dislike that I ended up with for Lunacy. In terms of "how easy it was to play defense" vs "how very difficult the game task was" ratio, it probably ranks right near 2007, which I also disliked quite a bit.

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Re: Favorite FRC Game?

I will wait for more than week 1 comps to finish to rank where 2012 will be placed.

1. 2004
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5. 2008
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7. 2011
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9. 2006
10. 2003

2004 was the last year where robot didn't (for the most part) all look the same. This was because there was so many things a robot could do.
Nowadays there is generally only 1 or 2 things a robot can do to score so the robots all have the same look, which isn't as exciting to me.
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Re: Favorite FRC Game?

I must say, and yes, I am biased because of it being my rookie year, but Breakaway was one of my favorite years. It was quite easy to explain to other people (Having gotten Lunacy explained to me and having to explain Logomotion in such a way that it seems more challenging than 'lift tube, hang tube, repeat'). On top of that, seeing the powerhouses such as 1986, 1114, 67, and 469 just sending balls into oblivion over the entire field solidly embeds 2010 in my mind. I suppose it does help as well that 2010 is the year we were Greater Kansas City finalists with 16 and 1625, and the #1 seed in Oklahoma and top offensive bot there too

As far as this year goes, I think it still has time to appeal to me...it's starting at least...
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Re: Favorite FRC Game?

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I will wait for more than week 1 comps to finish to rank where 2012 will be placed.

1. 2004
2. 2005
3. 2002
4. 2009
5. 2008
6. 2010
7. 2011
8. 2007
9. 2006
10. 2003

2004 was the last year where robot didn't (for the most part) all look the same. This was because there was so many things a robot could do.
Nowadays there is generally only 1 or 2 things a robot can do to score so the robots all have the same look, which isn't as exciting to me.
I find that interesting, as ive always had the opposite view.
Games where there are a whole bunch of tasks the robots are asked to do always turn me off... and they sure aren't very spectator friendly. Those games seem to look less like a global robotics competition and more like a local hobby event.

That being said, Lunacy was terrible, regardless of my statements above.

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Re: Favorite FRC Game?

I plan on watching archived footage of past games, but my favorite aspects of 2012 are the fact that it's easily explained to non-FIRSTers, and the end game of the bridge. Watching it in qualifications was fun enough at Alamo, but seeing it in the finals had me on the absolute edge of my seat. Seeing the triple balance between 148, 922, and 2936 was absolutely amazing, so I can't wait to see what else is in store for other regionals/St. Louis.
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Re: Favorite FRC Game?

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It's a tough choice for me, I've seen gameplay from many different games. Rebound Rumble is a very exciting game to watch and is currently my favorite. Logomotion is my least favorite. It was fun, but it was somewhat difficult for rookie teams, and too easy for Vet teams. A 7 seed made it to Einstein. Logomotion was very imbalanced, and the minibot challenge endgame was pure luck at times.
Not sure about your point regarding a 7 seed on Einstein. An 8th seed not only reached Einstein, but won Einstein, in 2007.
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Re: Favorite FRC Game?

I've been an FRC participant since 2009... The games change a lot based on level of play.

At the very top levels of competition, Breakaway was an absolutely brilliant game. Logomotion played well, but the way the pre-IRI scoring was set up, you basically didn't need to watch the first minute and a half of a good match. Lunacy was always more fun to play than to watch... and at the top level, robots finally began to outscore human players... but it certainly hasn't aged well for me.

When you get down to the weaker and earlier regionals, any game will look worse, but the best games are still somewhat worth watching. Logomotion probably did best in this category with the big, bright game pieces people would slowly score. Breakaway was fun to play but looked pretty bad. Lunacy was a mess.

I think this game has the potential to be better than Breakaway. I'm excited.
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Re: Favorite FRC Game?

I'll echo the love for 2004. One of my favorite games.

But I'm shocked at the lack of hype for 2006. One of the best viewing games ever made. Simple or the audience to keep track of (only confusing aspect was the "scoring periods" and when the automatic score keeping didn't work), and incredibly fun to watch.

http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2006cmp_f1m2

And, of course, the legendary 138-137 IFI SF1-2 match. The best match ever played in my opinion.
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Semi-related to viewing, the most fun I've ever had participating in an event was 2007 Galileo. When Rack'N'Roll was played the style it was on Galileo that year, it was one heck of a game to play and watch. Pity Einstein didn't have a similar style.
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Re: Favorite FRC Game?

You can't forget about the mini bots from last year though. They provided a competitive fast paced end game that I thought really put 2011 over the top. Logomotion is one of the most exciting to watch.
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